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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In addition to this, how about a natural birth awareness month where we can talk about all the ways your vagina, bladder, rectum, and pelvis can be destroyed by vaginal birth. We can talk about chronic/permanent fissures, cystocele, rectocele, uterine prolapse, urinary incontinence, flatal incontinence, fecal incontinence, vaginal laxity, scar tissue, levator avulsion, broken tailbones, coccydynia, tears to the anal sphincter, hypertonic pelvic floors, etc.

What sort of misogynistic culture are we to think that somehow vaginal birth is somehow superior to c section? Human Birth is a crappy evolutionary compromise (the massive human head has to come out of a tiny opening on the bottom of the female torso, from the same part that is also tasked with holding our inside pelvic organs up, maintaining our continence and sexual function, absorbing impact, etc.) that women can pay dearly for. The idea of natural being “better” when it results in so much damage to women is insulting. [/quote]

You realize that a lot of these things are from pregnancy, and not necessarily birth itself?

But yes, we need to talk about how birth isn’t always “pretty”. [/quote]

There is “not pretty” and then there is “life altering injury.” Far too many women end up with the latter, it’s just that no one has been willing to talk about it publicly until recently. And yes, many of these injuries ARE caused by vaginal birth and the damage to the pelvic muscles, nerves, fascia, and ligaments caused by a baby passing through the vagina. Only about 50 percent of women who attempt vaginal birth have an uncomplicated delivery, and those women basically win the birth lottery. Don’t dismiss “quality of life” injuries like it’s not a big deal. It is.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/childbirth-injuries-prolapse-cesarean-section-natural-childbirth/

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a59626/birth-injuries-postpartum-pain-untreated/[/quote]
“Half of women have complicated births” - citation? That seems absurdly high. What does a “complicated birth” include, and is it always something a csection is the best solution for? Doubtful. [/quote]

“The prevalence of significant pelvic floor trauma after vaginal child birth is much higher than generally assumed. Rates of obstetric anal sphincter injury are often underestimated and levator avulsion is not included as a consequence of vaginal birth in most obstetric text books. In this study less than half (33-40%) of primiparous women achieved an atraumatic normal vaginal delivery.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30063899/

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Uh, did you actually read the research? The percentage of women who did NOT achieve an “atraumatic normal vaginal delivery “ includes the large percentage who had c-sections (so not any type of vaginal delivery), as well as those with instrumental deliveries, third and fourth degree tears, etc. The data is NOT saying that over 50 percent of women have levator injuries! You’re grossly misinterpreting the data. [/quote]

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