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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You can have an LD and still be stupid, a bad student, or a C student. You can have ADHD and still get Cs and still be a below average student. [/quote]

What is this fixation with calling children stupid?[/quote]

I’m just using the words used by posters on this thread. A pp before my original post said something like, “if we didn’t find out dd was dyslexic people would just assume she were stupid.”

I don’t like the word, stupid, for kids. But a few posters have used it to describe kids who struggle in school and don’t have a diagnosis. That’s terrible! My original post was meant to point out that just because your kid has a diagnosis it doesn’t magically make them no longer struggle in school. It’s not some excuse. An average student is an average student with or without a diagnosis.

[b]Most kids with LDd are still below average students. That’s just a fact.[/b] [/quote]. Please provide a link that backs your assertion. [/quote]

By definition 50% kids are below average. Most kids with LDs are struggling students. [b]I know there is a popular narrative among UMC parents that says kids with LDs are actually bright kids who are only average because of an LD, but that only exists in the UMC world. More than half of kids with LDs are struggling at the bottom of the class[/b].  [/quote]

I am the OP and as I stated previously my daughter is a struggling student, we will most likely have her tested, and I'm guessing that she will walk away with a label.  But I'm pragmatic enough to realize that what this actually means that she is just not as bright as others - at least in some areas. [/quote]

Something that’s taken off in recent years is this wonderful idea that we should celebrate neurodiversity. And it is exactly how you describe. Your child has strengths and weaknesses.

Yes, even the C student who doesn’t have a diagnosis has strengths and weaknesses.

My child has dyslexia/dysgraphia. She has strengths and weaknesses. I love to think about her particular intelligence profile is a gift. But reality is she has deficits. ALL KIDS WITH LDS DO. It’s not so much that she thinks differently (neurodiversity). She does. But she also has a brain defect. And that is never going to go away.

We are happy that she is improving upon her weaknesses and her strengths shine, [b]but I don’t pretend she’s any different from an average student when she performs in an average way.[/b]

There will always be a bell curve. Most kids with LDs fall somewhere in the middle because they get supports. Without them they would be at the tail end. Im not sure why this is being debated. That is how you get an LD diagnosis. Sure kids can have strengths that fall far above that. But the deficits were or still are painfully and obviously low. [/quote]

OP here.  This is my beef as well.  It seems ridiculous to pretend that someone who is performing at a mediocre level because of an LD is somehow superior to someone who is performing at a mediocre level due to a "flat iq profile".  Either way they are both mediocre and both would do better with extra help.  Fact is both have something going on with their brain that keeps them from achieving at a higher level.  [/quote]

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