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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am getting pissed now. High achieving Asian-American male student in magnet STEM program. 4.0 GPA, NMF, 10 APs, 1 state level EC, hundreds of hours of community service, member of a number of honor societies, started two clubs, research experience....and Ivies are just reach for him? FU%K IT!!!!!!![/quote] If this is a real post--you have other kids like your son to thank for your frustration.[/quote] Actually he probably has less qualified white kids to thank for his son’s situation. [/quote] I wasn't referring to race. I was referring to the competition. OP's son doesn't seem special because of the pressure high-achieving kids put themselves under and insane workaholism.[/quote] No actually the real reason we are in this situation is that the national level tests - like the SAT SAT subject tests and the APs are too easy at the top levels of scoring - they dont have enough challenging sections to differentiate peformance at the top levels of academic prowess. So all smart kids look like they have 5s on their APs when really there should be a level 6 and 7 of performance so that the test really does select the truly super-"smart" kids from the merely smart. That is what the British A-levels A* versus A score gives you and what the IB 7 / 7scores give compared to 5or6/7. Only 3% of kids in IB score 7s and 5% of A-level kids get A*s. But for APs about 15% get 5s so these tests dont allow enough selection of the true top-level kids. [/quote] Well put! I completely agree. The College Board is a bunch of morons. Who would take an instrument and deliberately make it less precise?! Getting rid of the vocab section and analogies was a ridiculous move. I wonder if colleges are asking for better tests. [/quote] Colleges are moving toward ditching admissions tests altogether, not seeking a different better one. As for the College Board, it changed the SAT in response to demand from states to have one test that would test mastery of high school Common Core learning objectives. The ACT met that mark and many states adopted it for that purpose because they could administer the ACT, check the box for annual testing and ‘give’ students a free college admission test without spending more. SAT was losing market share and changed to be more ACT-like. Colleges did not object. [/quote]
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