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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You can always try to get your kid into Cambridge or Oxford if you think that system is better. The rest of the world is trying to get access to the American educational institutions because our univerisities are considered the gold standard. Most top schools in the world are American and have holistic admissions. It’s so odd that foreigners come to America for education or job opportunities and then are furious that our educational system does not follow the rigid testing structure that forced them to leave in the first place. They come for the opportunity in America but want to change it to a rigid testing culture. [/quote]

Well I am the poster who made the point about the ceiling effect of our national tests and I am an American so I am not sure what made you assume I was a foreigner

In any case I will admit that I am a professor at a top 20 university and value academic accomplishment in my students.  And also I have written test questions for national tests and understand the psychometric criteria used in constructing national test instruments.

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Having a clearer signal on Academic performance through harder national tests doesnt prevent or obviate the holistic admissions approach or the ability to bias admissions in favor of underrepresented groups.  It just allows a much better fine-tuned process that is able to signal to potential applicants why they were or were not admitted.  [b]Having noise in the criteria just makes the process more random. [/b] Even a rational holistic admissions process.

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That's precisely what colleges want, more "noise". "Holistic" just allows them to be less transparent and they do not want to be transparent.  They want to By use factors of their choosing to pick the student body they want.   "well she was  a disabled bagpipe  player from county ___ and we really were impressed by her overcoming of adversity and needed one of those so ...  They will have plenty of the high test scorers also.[/quote]

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