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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous](Excepting from above comment die to screwed up quoting.)

And yet it did work well in my school. The suggestion of the research is not accurate in that case.

But this is the main point: According to the above research, even when the placements were done subjective teacher decisions (rather than more objectively by test), the errors were between advanced and the two general levels or between the general levels and remedial.

*Despite some randomness in the middle, they still were not putting the most struggling and the most advanced in the same class, which is exactly what ‘Honors for All” does.*[/quote]

How do you know it worked in your school? From your perspective it did. And when I was tracked, it seemed like it was working, too. But “working” simply meant that I ended up in a class full of kids just like me, who had the advantages that ensured we tested well, had good work habits, had parents who expected us to go to college, etc. (Oh, and were almost exclusively white!) How is that “working”? All it did was reinforce the advantages and disadvantages built into society through intergenerational wealth transfer, housing segregation, etc.[/quote]

It worked darn well for me.  I was in G &T and then the highest level classes in middle and high school.  Your premise is that only white kids are in these classes.  That’s not true.  Maybe they are a majority but not exclusive.  Why would you not want each child to be fully challenged?  How do you expect the top 10% of the class to be in with kids in the 50% or lower?  I live in DC and we are raising our son in DC.  If some of you DC parents want to to believe your illusion if you have a child in the top 10% of the class, that the child will be challenged to their full potential in honors for all so be it.  They won’t.
Education cannot fix external issues related to poverty, and if you think not tracking will, that’s your opinion. But we are out.  I know what’s it’s like to bored and not be challenged in school, and I would never wish it on any child let alone my child.  [/quote]

“It worked darn well for me” is not evidence that tracking works systematically. Seems like you’ll be happier in another school system, so good luck to you.[/quote]

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