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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My guess is OP thinks the non white/asian will be poorer and less studious and will cause the level of classroom instruction to drop due to distractions and having to teach to a lower median ability[/quote]

My post from the first thread and I still think most people worry about this

The idea that kids who go to school with lower performing peers will form an identity around being studious is interesting, but I do wonder how great the odds are that your kid falls into the wrong crowd is

I also agree that our diverse schools taught me about stereotypes. In mine, most so classes were majority white and most lower level classes were majority black

Living in DC itself can reinforce these two when you live in a place like Columbia heights where most of the people on the street looking unproductive are black too

The correlation between race and poverty//education in this area makes these discussions very tense and awkward

I am zoned for a 15% white elementary school with 60% farms so I share the same concerns.. I am planning on having my kids attend and I'm optimistic though[/quote]

I also had the experience of seeing the white kids in high school in AP/Honors/gifted classes and the black kids in the normal classes. Except I was a "gifted" black kid taking classes alongside the white kids. We were completely segregated in school, even had our own hallway for our lockers, essentially our own wing of the school, and we had a somewhat separate lunch period. Its definitely made the white kids feel superior (and they certainly acted like it), but its worse for black kids who are made to feel like something is wrong with them that all the white kids in the school just are magically smarter and more valued than they are. I was treated like a unicorn, an accident, as if my smarts weren't normal, and that didn't feel good either.

But guess what? Those disgusting stereotypes can be fixed very easily:  simply teach the kids about our damn history of consistently and systematically screwing over black people so that whites could benefit, which is happening up until this day. Teach them about redlining, black towns that were burned down, syphyllis testing on blacks, and then the modern stuff, how blacks were targeted by subprime mortgages, white flight, the drug epidemic in the 70s, how black books, movies, and other media wouldn't be published for ages, I can go on and on and on. Put those things in our American history and social studies curriculums, or teach them at home yourselves, and then those segregated classes could be the greatest learning experience for them.

I also think its disgusting that white people are in here discussing how another child's welfare benefits them, and if they don't see direct benefits, they aren't interested. If you were talking about fellow white children, let's say European children who were scarred by war or poverty or Appalachian kids who were displaced by earthquakes or something and ended up refugees in your town, you would feel moved to help them. And you would more easily see how "bad" kids simply being around good kids changes the former to be good, not the latter to be bad. That's why schools worked decades ago when there was ECONOMIC DIVERSITY in schools. Now, upper middle class people are consistently trying to hoard everything they possibly can and using the excuse of their own children's safety and success (you know good and well your kids will do just fine) to watch other children languish in schools where they are being isolated and marginalized among. (And much of this is just to see their home prices rise out of greed).

And worse, you all don't know the different between the poor black kid with behavioral problems and depression, or the middle class black kid who loves science, or the poor black kid who is hard working and studious, or the middle class black kid who lost both his parents in a car accident the year before and acts out. They're all brown so that's all you need to know to keep them away from your school. Its racism plain and simple.

White kids are not all universally smarter, better behaved, or without traumas and problems. Its just that when they act up, no one notices and everyone around them is there to help. They aren't going to get kicked out and their poor little neighborhood across the road isn't going to be rezoned away. But let a black child do one thing wrong, let them make mistakes like an actual child, and its "I fear for the safety of my child and don't want them around bad influences, so we need to keep them ALL away." [/quote]

Yes! Thank you.[/quote]

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