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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am somewhat connected to Republicans in Congress, especially their staffers. Three big points.

1. The base doesn't care. Like, seriously. They will support Trump and aligned GOP candidates.

2. It's fairly clear that the Russians took advantage of the "southern strategy," the NRA, and racism to pick off the GOP. It's sort of obvious but not really publicly reported.

3. People are tied up in this mess. Right now the issue is whether the GOP and Trump are going to continue to stick together.[/quote]

Do they realize our national security, our democratic institutions including the truth and the rule of law are at stake?  Will they put country over party?[/quote]

Yes, they realized that. And if you followed closely Russian allegations, you should be well aware that they began operating well before 2013. Since democrats have not done anything in years to prevent Russian interference, I have to put ...over party vote republican.[/quote]
Thanks for opening our eyes PP. I didn’t realize we now live in the Upside Down![/quote]

This is what conservatives are taught to believe, and taught to say.  Upside down.  Lies and deception.  Taught by their politicians and the rightwing media.

Orwell explained it well, I think.

(OK, I just have to quote [i]1984[/i].  Scary that Orwell is so on point today.)

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[i]Orwell
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To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.[4]

The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them… [b]To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary.[/b] Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is[b] tampering with reality;[/b] by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.[5][/quote]
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Democratic societies flourish when we agree on an objective truth and use reason to analyze and interpret the meaning in a common set of facts. I don’t think democracy can survive in a post truth world in which populist leaders rely on instinct and emotions to guide their decisions [/quote]

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