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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really don't care, do u?[/quote]

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort  of mindless imbecile wouldn't?[/quote]

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.[/quote]

Try to keep up.....blacks and hispanics already get a significant handicap on admissions.  The suit is about discrimination against qualified asian-american applicants.  [/quote]

If these plaintiffs prevail, the effect will be to disproportionately push blacks and Hispanics out of these schools. That's why so many Asian people are opposed to this lawsuit, because they don't want their admissions to come at the expense of disadvantaged groups, and even those who don't care about that per se know how bad a look it is for them.[/quote]

Why is that? Stoping discriminating Asian students doesn't mean other groups have to be discriminated. It's strange to think a race-neutral policy will push blacks and latinos out. [/quote]

Blacks and latinos currently are subjected to lower standards than the rest of the applicant pool so that the college can meet its racial quotas.  If admissions were a true meritocracy like in Europe or to a lesser degree the UCal system, more asians would be admitted and fewer blacks and latinos would....because of, you know....qualifications.[/quote]

Let's extend out the sterotype(s)  Take a look at the winners of these science competitions, spellings bees, geography bee, other acadmemic compeitions.  Are these the the smartest people? sure ok.  Are these people going to bring in the most financial donations back to the univesrity heck no.  This is what people don't understand.  Universities are a business plain and simple they are trying to select a class that will generate the most successful people that will be more likely to donate money back to the university.  Yes this means you have to be smart but not super super smart.  Soft skills, confidence, charisma, and even empathy are much more important which is why admissions committees do holistic admissions instead of taking the people with the highest academic stats only.   Some of those soft skills are especially prevelant amongst athletes which is why places like Harvard have athletics are one of their 4 big categories.  It's all in the brief I post on page 4 I think.

Why do admissions have to be a "meritocracy"? Regurgitating answers, studying for hours, getting straight A's in school doesn't equate to success in college or the real world. It doesn't measure innovation, leadership skills or a vast multitude of other things that are more important than perfect test scores. [/quote]
Indeed, why should academic merit be the sole criteria to an academic program?  Why should how well you play basketball be the only factor in being picked to play for the NBA?

Look at the winners of the Intel Science competition. Those competitions aren't about who has the best test scores and grades. Not seeing many URM there.[/quote][/quote]

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