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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Employers? N[b]o chance. Many confederate flags in and around C’ville. Are UVA grads struggling with the association?[/b] Same for many southern schools. Part of a weird problem but hardly unique to Lexington. Lexington is a very cute little town, ignorant yahoos aside, and immediately adjacent to the campus.[/quote]

Not at all.  I know both W&L and UVA.  W&L has Lee's horse, for heaven's sake!  It truly is Southern, as are its sororities and frats.  I do not understand its attraction.  UVA on the other hand attracts students from all over the world.  Confederate flags would never be tolerated.  [b]The University is cosmopolitan and international[/b].  You can't even begin to equate the two.[/quote]

L[b]ol....you're delusional.  With 70% of students coming from VA it is very hard to be cosmopolitan and international.  [/quote][/b]

No, you are. By your logic then, with 80% of Berkeley's students coming from California there would be a lack of cosmopolitan feeling?  Have you ever been to Charlottesville? Or walked the grounds? 67% are Virginians but that includes a class with 35% minority and 10% first generation students. It also includes a new push for low-income students so you have Virginians from all walks of life and all sorts of backgrounds, including the Virginians who went to private boarding schools. Then there are the Jefferson Scholars.  Also students from all 50 states and faculty, staff and students from 183 countries.  In addition to the undergrads, there are 7,705 graduate students from all over the country and world in the law school, med school, business school, etc. [/quote]

UVA is not particularly diverse.  You tout 10% first generation students at UVA.  UCLA is over 30%.  For income diversity, only about 12% get Pell grants vs 35% at UCLA.  Only about 4.2% of the most recent class at UVA are international.  That isn't very high at all relatively speaking.  VT and W&M are higher as a percentage of undergraduates.

You mention Jefferson Scholars seemingly without realizing that W&L has a similar program in the Johnson Scholarship, which is much more extensive in that it is awarded to about 10% of the entering class vs typically less than 1% for UVA Jefferson.  How does W&L manage to do this?  Little rinky-dink W&L has about a $1.6B endowment for 2,160 students, which is about $737K per student   UVA would need an $18B endowment to match that, but this wouldn't account for the fact that W&L's endowment, unlike UVA's doesn't have to be shared with any graduate program other than law or a medical center or for athletic scholarships.

So anyway, I digress. [b] I just think you should be more careful before you slag schools, particularly one as good as W&L.  The world is a better place with a diversity of choices.[/quote][/b]

86% of the student body at W&L participates in Greek life.  It is the only college I know of that actually posts the COSTS of Greek life along with its regular fees on its officiial page because it is ASSUMED that most students would participate.  This "have and have not" separation creates a real gap between the scholarship low-income and minority students and the others because the former cannot afford to pay thousands a year to participate in a frat. or a sorority.  I know.  I taught there.  Look at the three *** right here.  https://www.wlu.edu/admissions/scholarships-and-aid/cost-of-attendance.  LOOK at those costs riight on on the W&L website. THAT'S how much the Greek system affects Greek life.  Then there is the problem of attracting minority students because of this division between the wealthy white legacies and other wealthy students and the scholarship students.  Then there's the problem of the lack of quality housing in town.  Remember the parties where the floors fell out or porches gave way?  Or how about the eleven greek kids who drove out to a party house further out and got drunk and packed the eleven kids back into the car, had an accident, and a woman went through the windshield, died, and the young man who was driving had his life ruined?  Drinking at W&L starts Thurs night and runs thru Monday morning. I would never send my child there.  I don't understand why some think it is attractive. https://www.roanoke.com/news/virginia/drunken-driver-in-crash-that-killed-w-l-classmate-to/article_04e2fbc4-a08c-5b07-a8cc-1776a45d7521.html[/quote]

Sure you did. And you’re here on this thread because you’re still weirdly obsessed. And you can’t imagine why anyone would like what you don’t like. You seem nice. And what’s wrong with posting the cost? Seems very transparent to me. The participation stat was the only number you need to see in order to understand the Greek presence. Would it be better to hide the cost? We know families who were stocker-shocked by big SEC fraternity costs.

OP, fake college professor aside, go see it. My daughter attends. I showed her the fake professor post and she just laughed. Nothing remotely resembling her actual experience. No collapsing porches or confederate flags or rich dummies and poor brains - just a bunch of smart, nice kids who love their school and know their professors well enough to share meals. It isn’t perfect. Minority and international diversity has been a challenge and it is something they are striving to improve. But she has had a fantastic experience. Shame on her for liking it! Fake professor says it’s terrible. [/quote]

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