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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]New poster on this thread.  You post on every UVA thread ALL THE TIME and spew the same thing about UVA.  No one is saying that HS counselors don't know who's in the top 10%.  PP is saying that when UVA says that 90 whatever % of their students were in the top 10% of their HS class, they're not including schools that DON'T RANK, which are many many schools, if not most schools in nova.  Whether a HS counselor knows who is in the 10% of their class is irrelevant.  Why do you keep bringing that up?  The point is, the 90 whatever % of top 10% students statistics only includes kids from schools that don't rank.  If you included the ranks of all UVA's students, the percentage of UVA students in top 10% of their HS would be a lot lower.  You know what?  I have nothing against UVA.  My dc is a junior and is seriously considering it, in fact.  But you UVA parents are just crazy.  Or maybe it's just 1 or a few parents that are on DCUM all the time literally writing the same thing over and over again.  I swear if I did a search of DCUM, I'd find at least 10 times the same person has spewed the same thing over and over about Dean what's her face saying 90 whatever is at the top 10% and oh yeah, the schev report statistics.  I'm convinced you have it written somewhere and you just copy & paste it over and over again.  You either don't work and sit on DCUM all day long writing about UVA or maybe you work for UVA, in which case they need to just fire you because you are not making UVA look good.    [/quote]

This is correct.  I believe the history is that most schools used to rank.  Good private schools did not or stopped because it placed their graduates (who presumably could be in the bottom 25% but still competitive with the top 10% at a less academic school) at a disadvantage.  The better publics then followed suit and that has spread to most public high schools.  Top colleges may have as little as 30% or so with a class rank.  The schools that are most likely to rank tend to be the least strong districts.  So when you see the numbers cited, they are only for the students where a class rank is provided.  If universities were allowed to make their own assessment of who is 10%, I can only imagine that it would be a race to 100% given the nature of things.  They already find ways to manage all the other stats (e.g. yield protection, making it easy to apply so they can reject).

On a related note, there is a skyrocketing number of valedictorians and salutatorians because they count ties or count any students over a certain GPA as a valedictorian.  This has been going on for quite a while.

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/education/27valedictorians.html

There is also rampant GPA inflation at the high school level.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/10/heres-how-my-graduating-class-ended-up-with-72-valedictorians/?utm_term=.7126000e2c85[/quote]

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