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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching

It's ranked the 11th best public school for undergraduate education. [/quote]

? Are we looking at the same list?  I see William and Mary at #7; I don't see UVA anywhere.[/quote]
You need to keep scrolling.[b] [/quote][/b]

how far?[/quote]
to #17...[/quote]

Got it. Thank-you.  Well, that's really not in the top 5 like someone above claimed now is it?
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I think a number of the top schools on that list are probably pretty good at undergraduate education (Dartmouth, Brown, Princeton, W&M), but I'm pretty shocked to see Michigan at 6.  It is one of the most graduate and research focused schools in the country in my view.  I wonder if there is some gaming going on here or it is perhaps influenced by a particular school like Ross.  The problem with almost all USNews lists is they are ultimately subject to some for of gaming and manipulation.  See the meteoric ascent of Northeastern (and even Vanderbilt and Chicago) as examples.[/quote]

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