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I'm glad that you believe "deathbed conversations" won't get you into heaven. Some Christians do believe this, however - maybe not many or most, but some do. Like I said upthread, there will be people of every faith (not just Christianity) who will abuse tenets to their favored attitude. But then again, everyone thinks they're "right."

My disagreement is not based on a "fundamental misunderstanding" - for some people they get it. Others do not. There's a fundamental difference of belief in Christianity vs. Islam, and I simply will never understand the point of salvation, or Jesus as savior. His role in Christianity is pointless to me. The whole plot is needless, from my perspective (generally more simplified: God created the earth, leaves us completely to our devices, sends a few human teachers/prophets now and then, judges us when we die). I also understand that this worldview probably doesn't make sense to Christians or others (and it doesn't make sense to me as an Atheist now, stepping 'out' of the system).

All belief systems and their veracity are clouded by our personal experiences and upbringing.

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No, this is just wrong. No Christian denomination claims that hypocrisy will get you into heaven.
- Jesus talked a lot against religious hypocrisy
- God knows what’s really in your heart

Therefore,
- you have to want to change
- you have to actually try to change

You’re deliberately confusing the actions of bad people with the tenets of Christianity itself. Like someone’s mean boss up thread who goes to church every Sunday. Of course there are Christian hypocrites who want to think they’re getting a free pass, but these people =\= Christianity.

Every religion has people who use their religion in a hypocritical way. I’m sure some Muslims use the “scales” idea as a free pass but it won’t do them much good heaven-wise. I’m sure we agree that ISIS members are abusing religion and won’t get into heaven.

Would you want people claiming these Muslim bad actors represent actual tenets of Islam? Of course not! So stop doing it to Christianity re Christian hypocrites.[/quote]

I never said "denominations" I sad people - individual people. We both agree that we don't want the bad actors of any group to represent the more reasonable, moderate, moral majority. [/quote]

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