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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am desperately trying to figure out what disability this kid has that requires him to need specialized instruction, but doesn't make him  distractible (and so doesn't get small group testing), doesn't cause difficulty with reading, writing or processing speed (thus no extended time), doesn't cause difficulties with computation (thus no calculator), doesn't interfere with his receptive language (thus no clarified directions), or impact his vision (no enlarged print), or his hearing (no interpreter), or his handwriting (no scribe) and doesn't make him anxious about the test (thus no breaks, or scheduling accommodations).

OP, can you give us a hint? I've read 100s of IEP's and I've never seen one with just preferential seating, which is quite possibly the least useful accommodation on the list.  [/quote]

You're trying to shift the basis of the argument, and by questioning whether the OP's child needs services at all. That's nasty. [/quote]

No, I'm not questioning whether the OP's child needs services.  I'm questioning whether the "only has preferential seating" thing, which didn't come from the OP, as far as I can tell, is accurate.  My guess is that OP's child has other accommodations, such as small groups, or extended time, and that the gen ed teacher happened to have the group of kids who have those accommodations.  [/quote]

Then OP's child would have those accomodations for *all* tests, not just PARCC. But PARCC is the only time they are counted as service hours. Makes no sense. Again, clearly this is an accounting method to make it seem like they are getting services when the staffing actually doesn't permit it. It would be better just to admit that no services are delivered during PARCC and prorate those weeks correctly, like a PP described. [/quote]

When kids take tests with special education support, either pull out or push in, it's absolutely counted in their service hours.  Administering testing is one of the services that's included in service hours. [/quote]

Yes!!!! I've tried to say this a couple of times, but you've explained it clearly. And THIS is why you can't change the number of service weeks.  Providing testing in the way that the student needs in order to participate with peers IS service.  Also, service, including accommodations, are often provided by paraeducators.[/quote]

You really don't know what you're talking about.  Have you ever looked at an IEP?  Do you not know the difference between instruction and test taking?  A student with an IEP requires direct, specialized in instruction to access the curricula.  The hours of direct, specialized instruction are specified in the IEP.  Accommodations are NOT direct, specialized instruction and there are no service hours associated with them.  They are either provided or they are not.  All this is reflected in the IEP.  Since it's clear you haven't seen an IEP, take a look at Maryland's http://marylandpublicschools.org/programs/Documents/Special-Ed/IEP/MarylandIEP072017.pdf

-pages 12 -21 are the accommodation pages.  You'll note there are no provisions for 'service hours' required to deliver the accommodations including testing accommodations
-'Services' start on page 26.  There is no provision for accommodations as this is the section documenting the hours of direct specialized instruction and where that instruction takes place

Accommodations provided during PARCC testing cannot count as hours of direct specialized instruction. [/quote]

Well said.  I'm sympathetic to the school a LITTLE because the situation is surely that they don't have enough special ed staff to administer the PARCC test accommodations and deliver services those weeks, and/or makeup services after.  But that's not a reason to cook the books on the IEP.  Instead, they should clearly account for nothing happening during the month of PARCC to either make a case for additional staffing for PARCC, or the need to add additional hours to the IEP to account for the lost time during testing.  [/quote]

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