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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action policies have been white females. So it's the white female applicant pool that is harming the white male applicant pool the most in college applications. Yes, there are a few slots taken up by URM's that could have gone elsewhere but they are not the reason most white and Asian kids are getting the short end of the stick in college admissions. [/quote]

I'm male and I have to say, "what the hell are you talking about?"  Girls typically have better grades in HS. The only place that will sees lower standards for girls is athletics due to Title 9 and some engineering schools trying to "improve" the sex ratio of their enrolling class.[/quote]

Affirmative action is not limited to race and is much more than comparing metrics at the time of college admission. It is all the programs, efforts, special encouragement, preferences given to one group over another early in their lives to even the scales and girls have been getting a lot of help for the last 40 years or so, specially in school, while boys have been left to fend for themselves.  That is why you are seeing such a dramatic transformation in the college dynamic now. Girls have caught up and passed boys in school. In fact most public schools are now places where boys are at a clear disadvantage with poor role models and policies in place that actually make it harder for them to succeed. White girls were the primary beneficiaries of the AA gender efforts. For example the number of women physicians has tripled since 1970 because of gender based AA efforts.

The problem with URM AA in college admissions is that very little effort has been expended to expand the URM pool early. So you are left with one choice. Lower the standards to fill the numbers you want and call it holistic admissions, but if it were not for gender based AA, white men would still be a lion's share of the college matriculants. So the major reason for white guys getting shut out of colleges is not URM's but white girls, because of their numbers.

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