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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Topic: Minorities almost never file the appeals that can help secure their admission to AAP

This is just a statement!

What is the question? What are we discussing?[/quote]

We are discussing why that might be the case. [/quote]

So you are throwing a NOT well documented article, based on subjectivity and hear say, to a bunch of people who most likely do not have the required specific case knowledge and qualifications to discuss this properly, so you can figure out why this issue (for which you don't even have proof) exists?

If you believe that this issue exists, what are you personally doing to help and ensure that this problem is resolved? How did you come to this belief and how did you ensure that you are actually dealing with an issue? [/quote]

The WaPo article pointed to an AP investigation, which is also described in this article.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/school-systems-appeals-process-leaves-some-minorities-out/2018/02/03/1dbc302c-08eb-11e8-aa61-f3391373867e_story.html?utm_term=.e86b2b3f05f7

Actually, although I understand that this is expensive, the obvious answer seems to be to administer a WISC or other formal IQ test to all in pool candidates -- perhaps even lowering the pool cutoff to 130 or 128 on either test or any subscore in order to capture the largest number of students.  [/quote]

It would be incredibly costly and time consuming to administer a WISC to thousands of students every year. While it is not perfect, it is much ore feasible to use a screener. [/quote]

It would be another $1.2m to administer a $400 WISC to every potential applicant with a pool of 3000.  If that virtually or entirely eliminates appeals, referrals, and the screening committees at each school and the central screening committee, it probably wouldn't come out to nearly as much.  Is that prohibitive, if it reduces prepping, complaining, worries over underrepresented minorities, etc.?[/quote]

It will not reduce prepping, complaining or worries over underrepresented minorities.

People will still prep, complain and worry. They will complain about the prepping, about the person administering the test, about the fairness and design of the test, and about the cultural issues associated with the format of the test. People will still complain that some parents hothouse their kids, thus leading to higher IQ scores, about the test taking conditions, and about the influence of the teacher to the students' self esteem and the teachers' influence on the test taker. We'll be discussing the subjective portion of the test proctor, and what assumption they make about the test taker. We'll be discussing that the reading and math portion of the IQ test should be eliminated because they can be prepped, etc, etc, etc.

Then we'd be back on square one. [/quote]

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