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Anything that talks about diversity/gaps etc is talking about watering down the application process.[/quote]

This is true only if you believe that the only way to increase participation by black, Hispanic, and/or poor kids is to admit unqualified black, Hispanic, and/or poor students and exclude non-black, non-Hispanic, and/or non-poor qualified students. Do you believe that? I don't.[/quote]

This is what happens in colleges and it’s trickling down to lower school levels.

The schools want to attract a certain number of AA and Latino students so they bring them in even if they are somewhat less qualified.

When I was in grad school, we had such a program.  They brought in about a dozen URMs.  Held a special free summer session to get the students up to speed.  Offered extra financial aid.  Ended up that only 3 of those students finished the program.  It was fairly obvious that in the name of ‘diversity’ they were accepting students who really were not qualified to be there.  [/quote]

I posted this but I also want to be clear that I do not think that AA and Latino students are less qualified as a whole.  My point is more than when the focus goes to ‘increasing diversity’ or ‘closing the achievement gap’ then often times programs end up letting in less qualified students to fulfill that requirement.  [/quote]
this is the inconvenient truth. There are many ways to help URM students to achieve higher, [b]but the school systems often don't want to take the hard road. watering down (changing the grading system, adding more holistic factors in special program admission, ...) is the easiest and quickest. [/b] [/quote]

I agree with this PP.  That's what MCPS seems to be doing.  And, I also agree that it would be more beneficial to the URM population to offer more resources such as smaller class sizes, and additional support versus pushing those students into the HGCs or pushing them into Compacted Math (as is being done at some schools, where every student ends up in CM). [/quote]

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