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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]He doesn't deserve prison for this.  The girl he texted with was off a stint of pursing a teacher, and sought out Weinber.
 Just like his other bims, she and her folks sold the story to a tabloid.  He should have to register as a sex offender, which is life-ending for him, and ended his marriage and will mess with his custody, but prison is ridiculous.[/quote]

I don't understand your point. Why doesn't he deserve prison time?  I used to be a teacher. Several underage girls came on to me. That makes no difference. I was supposed to be the mature one. I would have deserved prison if I had taken any of these girls up on their offers. [/quote]

If you take them up on their offer yes but weiner didnt touch the girl. He was also sexting several other older women when he flirted with this one. Also if the girl was acting like an adult drinking and sexing she is more likely to make immoral choices than an adult who does not.[/quote]

You are talking about things the girl did that, you feel, make her partially responsible for Weiner's behaviour and thus, you seem to feel, that sonce she is partially responsible,  Weiner doesn't deserve harsher or any punishment.

Most sexual crimes involving minors don't work on the theory of "contributory negligence" (which is reallly a concept that applies more to torts than crimes anyway). The basic understanding in the law is that minors do not have the capacity for informed consent to certain sexual behaviours.  For example, possession of a naked picture of a minor is child porn whether or not the minor consented to the taking and giving of the photo, i.e. that even their apparent willing involvement cannot be read as "consent".  Some crimes are "statutory" in the sense that they do not require an analysis of intent or consent.  It's straight up, if you do the crime you get the time.  Soliciting a minor online is such a crime.

Some sexual behaviour the law does think a minor can consent to - sex above a certain age but below age of majority as long as the partner is within 4 years.  There are lots of reasons the law views this as OK.  But deciding a 16 y.o. is be able to consent to sex with a 20 y.o. is far different than sexual talk between a 16 yo and a 50 yo.  Legally, we say that the 50 yo is really the one in that situation who has the burden to turn away the minor, no matter how manipulative, enticing or willing.  Because as a community we say that the 50 yo is capable of knowing his duty and acting on it, whereas the minor is not old enough to make rational jusgments and act on them.

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He doesn't deserve prison for this. The girl he texted with was off a stint of pursing a teacher, and sought out Weinber. 
Just like his other bims, she and her folks sold the story to a tabloid. He should have to register as a sex offender, which is life-ending for him, and ended his marriage and will mess with his custody, but prison is ridiculous.

I don't understand your point. Why doesn't he deserve prison time? I used to be a teacher. Several underage girls came on to me. That makes no difference. I was supposed to be the mature one. I would have deserved prison if I had taken any of these girls up on their offers.

Most sexual crimes involving minors don't work on the theory of "contributory negligence" (which is reallly a concept that applies more to torts than crimes anyway). The basic understanding in the law is that minors do not have the capacity for informed consent to certain sexual behaviours. For example, possession of a naked picture of a minor is child porn whether or not the minor consented to the taking and giving of the photo, i.e. that even their apparent willing involvement cannot be read as "consent". Some crimes are "statutory" in the sense that they do not require an analysis of intent or consent. It's straight up, if you do the crime you get the time. Soliciting a minor online is such a crime.

Some sexual behaviour the law does think a minor can consent to - sex above a certain age but below age of majority as long as the partner is within 4 years. There are lots of reasons the law views this as OK. But deciding a 16 y.o. is be able to consent to sex with a 20 y.o. is far different than sexual talk between a 16 yo and a 50 yo. Legally, we say that the 50 yo is really the one in that situation who has the burden to turn away the minor, no matter how manipulative, enticing or willing. Because as a community we say that the 50 yo is capable of knowing his duty and acting on it, whereas the minor is not old enough to make rational jusgments and act on them.

True. When I was 13 I was sexually harassed by a 70 yr old. All he got by the liberal judge was a restraining order which was kind of hard to follow considering he was a next door neighbor! The judge just excused him as feeling he was too old and that his culture (asian) was different and that they didn't allow that here. However when I was sexually harassed I wore a thick sweater and high waist jeans. The 16 yr old girl in this case dressed sexy and asked weiner to skype with her after finding out about his sexting scandal with pornstar sydney leathers and flirted with him. Now he gets 20 years without never touching her and her provoking him. Correct me if i'm wrong but that just doesn't make sense despite what the weirdo system dictates is legal or not.[/quote]

Don't forget that Weiner is a serial on-line predator; this same behavior:

[b]-cost him his congressional seat,
-cost him a near-certain win as mayor of NYC, and 
-cost the USA HRC as president.[/b]

And he reached a plea deal on "friendly" (ie - overwhelmingly democrat) territory; the AUSA had no room within the law to cut Weiner any further breaks.

He brought all of this on himself; don't pity him.[/quote]

shows just how strong these types of compulsive urges can be[/quote]

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