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[quote=Anonymous]The C IS generally considered Caltech, but HYPSMC refers to overall rankings, not just undergrad ones. Caltech often ranks in the top 5 in the world, hence its inclusion.

If you were to look at just undergrad components, yes, Columbia is better. Higher endowment, smaller classes, better graduation rates, marginally higher retention.. that's why Columbia ranks 5th and Caltech 10th. Columbia DOES have a higher yield than Caltech, both overall and if you look at just the RD kids alone. However, one is literally comparing apples to oranges here. A school with less than 1000 undergrads against one with 6000. One is a leading STEM school, the other is better known for the liberal arts thanks to the Core. The top STEM kids do go to Caltech (http://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Caltech&with=Columbia+University+in+the+City+of+New+York), but that's not so surprising- Caltech takes only the best STEM kids, period.

Let's just admit that they're both elite and stop this petty nonsense about comparing them. I'd be thrilled to bits if my child matriculated to EITHER- even if they had their choice of going to HYPSM. There is not that big of a gap with these colleges.[/quote]

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