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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]TRULY "elite" - let's be honest:

Princeton University (NJ) 
Harvard University (MA) 
Yale University (CT) (tie) 
Columbia University (NY) (tie) 
Stanford University (CA) (tie) 
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

That's it folks - those are the ONLY schools that are so elite they NEVER require explanation.

Of course Penn's Wharton School and Cornell's Hotel school are elite - but that's the point you have to specify the particular program. The other Top 25 schools are terrific, but there are NOT in the same class.[/quote]

I liked how you snuck Columbia in there.[/quote]

Hasn't Columbia been harder to get into than Yale or Princeton for the last several years? [/quote]

Columbia has not been harder to get in than Yale or Princeton. Acceptance rate does not equal selectivity. Columbia gets many many extra applicants due to its NYC location, many of which are not qualified, they just apply to the only ivy in NYC.

Truth is no one really thinks of Columbia as on par with HYPSM. [/quote]

You obviously don't. But in fact many others do.[/quote]

Most people definitely do not place Columbia on that tier. If there is any school that approaches HYPSM status is Caltech. Hence the occasional use of HYPSMC instead of HYPSM (C meaning Caltech, never Columbia). Columbia is just not on that tier. Look at the rankings, look at the cross admit splits, look at the yield rate, look at endowment, the fact that it has ED and not SCEA etc etc etc.

You might want it to be on par with HYPSM, but it sure isn't. It is a top 10 school, just not part of the ultra elite club that is HYPSM. Its peers are other lower top 10 schools like Caltech, UPenn, Chicago. [/quote]

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