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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What I didn't like about their break up conversation was that she was clearly asking him to propose, the day before getting engaged to Bryan. Do you remember Chris Soules coming to Becca the night before with "why don't you love me?" Why don't you love me, why won't you propose to me - these are not the things to say the night before you get engaged to some one else. Plenty of other leads finish out their seasons without pleading with the runner up. This begging, pleading stuff is just not the right thing to do when you "know" who you're going to pick. Piss on Peter all you like, but no lead should behave this way when their mind is already made up.[/quote]

I've thought about it and while who knows what the unedited version of the conversation had I.e. Was this hour 2 or the 3 hour conversation and did he ask her not to go etc., I do fall back on a few facts

- Bryan was the front runner all along with the matching watches, defending him her family, "hey baby" on his home town visit, and never did he get the last rose until there was only one rose left.  That's a lot of validation she gave to her supposed second choice.  In fact, other than the break-up scene it never seemed that close once you got to week 5 or 6
-She didn't take him up on the pity proposal nor would she ever say he was the one she was going to pick
- In bachelorette/bachelor world of falling in love, love, and in-love, she says she only told Bryan she was in-love with him and there hasn't been any film to prove differently 
- she didn't meet Peter when he wanted to reach out afterwards.  I think if you truly weren't sure and thought you could be happier with him, you would have at least heard him out

I have a friend happily married with two kids that back in the day had a back and forth between the boyfriend that wouldn't commit and her now husband. Husband was direct, knew what he wanted, and didn't play games and they first met when she was dating her can't commit boyfriend. They all happens to be in touch thru a mutual hobby. Once she broke up with the boyfriend and just started dating the guy that's now her husband, the ex came back - saying he would be more committed than ever.  She felt given the history she wanted to see it thru and went back to the ex.  After maybe one month she realized she felt stronger/better about her now husband than what she had with the ex and realized she didn't want her ex anymore.  So I do think you can have strong feelings for someone that wouldn't make a good long-term partner with you but that doesn't mean the person you end up with is the default choice/settling.  You are making a choice to pursue the person that is right for you but sometimes you need that proof that even if the person gives lip service to giving you want you want in the relationship in order to keep you, you would be far happier with the other person.[/quote]

I don't doubt that she had a stronger connection with Bryan. I saw it. We all saw it all season long. I also don't doubt that she had feelings of love to varying degrees with all four final men. My point, however, is that if she walked into the room that night with Peter knowing what she would do (as she now claims in her interviews), then she could have played it like most leads - simply ask how they're feeling at this point in the process, probably to suss out whether your runner up can make it through the next day or needs to be cut now. The only other lead I know of who actively tried to convince the runner up to be more into it at the last minute is Chris Soules, and I think there's a reason why this is rare: if you know what you're going to do in the end, then you start thinking through who will be easiest break up on the final day and save that person as your #2 and let the real competition go as #3 or #4 so they stop distracting you. I think that's what Jojo was trying to do by cutting Luke as #4 even though she was clearly distraught about it.

But I digress: what I didn't like about Rachel's behavior in the finale was that her words (I knew what I was doing) and her actions (acting as if she wanted/needed Peter) did not align, and that doesn't jive with what we've otherwise seen of her from the past two seasons. [/quote]

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