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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you have a phd in statistics hold out. Do you have data visualization skills? You can make more than that. [/quote]

With 0 work experience?

Take the job. In a few years you'll be way more marketable. [/quote]
Uh, no pp. I hire statistics (and other STEM) phds fresh out of grad school for more than $100k. Plus the job description does not demand a phd. There are better jobs op. 5-6 years of a rigorous phd program is not "no work experience". [/quote]

It is absolutely zero work experience. OP has proven that he is very good at doing statistics in an academic setting. This doesn't necessarily mean he will be a capable employee, as he has no track record. Tons of people have big degrees but never perform well in their chosen field. If a PhD in statistics is that in demand, then you have nothing to worry about if you hold out.[/quote]
I'm sorry that you understand nothing about phd's and/or research. Depending on the job and the degree, the experience counts. This is not the same as a literature phd applying for an HR job for which he/she has no experience. [/quote]

You are correct, I know nothing about PhD's and research. My girlfriend regularly recruits engineers with advanced degrees, and someone with no work experience is just another kid with a degree. Stop being a cluless B, we aren't talking about a degree in an unrelated field.[/quote]

I have a PhD in engineering, and employers ABSOLUTELY value your dissertation research as real-world experience. I also now work in workforce development in STEM fields, and work with employers who hire and they are desperate for PhDs in STEM fields from reputable programs (except life sciences - whole separate issue).

OP, $150 is a good starting salary for a new PhD. $86K is also fine. I have fellow PhD grads who have taken jobs (non-postdoc jobs) ranging from $75K-$250K right out of grad school at prestigious employers. Those going into policy got paid less, those going into financial services/consulting got paid more, those going into engineering/pharma got paid $100K+.

Two things I would think about: 1) your first salary will determine salary for all your future jobs. Starting at $86K means that even if you move to a higher COL area, employers will see that as your salary history and you will be paid less than your peers. You may want to consider taking the CA job for 2 years, and then moving to a lower COL area - this will allow you to negotiate a better salary in the lower COL area because of your history. 2) For many PhDs, the first job you take locks you into an industry. So look beyond this first job and think about what you want potential future earnings to bring, and if you want to stay in that industry for many years.  Some PhD folks break out and shift directions after their first job, but this is really a minority - most are now "set" as experts in that area.

Remember, your career is 30+ years, your first job may only be 2 years, and think long-term, not short term, about the direction your first job will take you in.[/quote]

OP: Thanks for the help. These were things I did not think about. [/quote]

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