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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]in th golden age of Islam in Andalusia 7th to 14th century, the Christians and Jews and Muslims lived in harmony -- no need to convert. That changed when the CHristians took over Do you have a cite for your opinion? What you stated is factually false. What harmony there was existed because conquered Jews and Christians had two choices: they could convert. Or they could become dhimmi. Those who didn't convert were SUBORDINATE to Islam. Dar al-Islam is "peaceful" because the Ummah are of one accord worshipping Allah, and they live under some degree of Shari'ah. Contrast that with the Dar al-Harb, the House of War, which is called that because they have not (yet) submitted to Islam. Expressing the opinion you do is fine. But support it, as I do with the Myth of the Andalusian Paradise and Bat Ye'or book. Evidence-based is what matters. Otherwise things degenerate to "my opinion prevails because I say so."[/quote] There was not complete harmony in Andalusia, which had an actual history, including periods of tolerance, and periods of persecution. But the fact remains, there was a vibrant Jewish culture there. Being a dhimmi was not consistent with post 1789 liberal rights, but it was better than anywhere in Christian Europe at the time. Even in the in the 17th century Netherlands, Jews were not fully equal citizens, IIUC. All of Christian Europe had laws based on church law, if not as detailed or as revered as Sharia (which is more similar to Jewish halacha). [/quote]
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