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This was the worst sports scandal in the history of the country. The decades of cover up and the awful truth in the football team house all while having the mantra "success with honor ".  The program and school community foolishly bought in to a hilarious myth that it did things the right way, better than how other schools ran their programs. When the horrible truth came out the school circled the wagons. Vigils , riots for JoePa being fired (no riots for decades of minors raped in the team showers). Anything ... ANYTHING not to miss a whole football game. Football first ... University second that's the priority.  Any normal community or institution run by normal people would have shut down the program for 2 years in order to readjust priorities and sanitize the stench. It would have earned respect and sympathy because it would recognize victimization of the community but also the self reflection that the community bought into a rediculous lie and were too invested in the lie to do the right thing for decades.  Instead the school has clung to the lie unable to let go and self deluded and addicted to the lie. It's a spectacle of concentrated human weakness and failure .[/quote]

So much conjecture and complete lack of any facts in this statement.  Not a single shred (please share if you have it) of 'decades of cover up'.  Not a shred.

Sandusky adopted 6 children (6) - These were all approved by the state of Pennsylvania.  Paterno's children and grandchildren were both at parties at Sandusky's house as late as 2006.  Think what you will, but nobody puts their own children in harm's way if they have the slightest inclination that there is a problem.  By all means, though, don't use your own common sense to make decisions.   Reject the fact that anybody who has spent time on this issue has reconsidered their earlier statements and actually now says there is no reasonable basis to believe that Paterno knew (Bob Costas comes to mind).  If I were you I would just reead two articles from the New York Times in 2012 and form a knee jerk opinion.

As for the stigma, I think that Penn State students are more than happy with the $140M that their student run charity for pediatric cancer has raised (the largest in the world), the fact that they are highly sought after by recruiters as someone mentioned above and that they have a huge alumni network to rely on throughout their careers.  I have yet to see anybody on this thread raise any sort of tangible stigma that would impact any individual.  Nobody links what happened to any Penn State graduate who is trying to succeed in the workplace.

People believe what they want to believe.  I don't expect much more from a board where half of the conversation on this thread is trying to explain the difference between Penn and Penn State.  The 'football culture' at Penn State is no different than the one that exists at 30 other schools around the country who have a large national presence. I will now step aside so that you can dismiss me as part of the cult.   [/quote]

You're missing the obvious fact that if people believe there is a stigma then there is in fact a stigma. And that can impact penn state grads in a million subtle and not so subtle ways.  When I hire people I review a pile of resumes that have been narrowed done from a much larger pile. Who is to say if the stigma, whether consciously or subconsciously, caused a penn state grad's resume not to be included?  [/quote]

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