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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You are talking about the actions of one guy.  Sandusky.  A few more if you allow yourself to believe the conspiracy theory - but let's say it's true for the sake of argument.

There are a million living Penn State graduates in the world.  You are focused on four.  There are successful Penn State graduates in every walk of life and every profession.   They are not all diehard football apologists.

This thread was about a stigma - there is no stigma at all in the professional world.  None.  Nobody is getting passed over for a job or fired from their job because the are a Penn State graduate.  In fact it is quite the opposite.  Penn State graduates thrive, just like many other schools  - they aren't living with their heads in the sand over a controversy that doesn't involve them.  The Wall Street Journal has, twice in the past five years listed Penn State as the school where recruiters would most like to go for talent.  The Penn State brand is about much more than football.

Penn State overcame a scandal that would have cratered most schools and it is thriving - stronger than ever.  [/quote]

One guy? What about all the others who tried to cover up his actions?[/quote]

I have no connection to PSU, but there were only a handful of people even indirectly involved in the abuse. Yes, there is an unhealthy, insular, fratty, football-obsessed culture at PSU, but that is true at dozens of schools.

Don't be too eager to cast stones. You never know when your own alma mater might suddenly become embroiled in a big scandal. I went to a school that had its own (not quite as embarrassing) scandal, so I am perhaps more aware that we all live in glass houses. [/quote]

This was the worst sports scandal in the history of the country. The decades of cover up and the awful truth in the football team house all while having the mantra "success with honor ".  The program and school community foolishly bought in to a hilarious myth that it did things the right way, better than how other schools ran their programs. When the horrible truth came out the school circled the wagons. Vigils , riots for JoePa being fired (no riots for decades of minors raped in the team showers). Anything ... ANYTHING not to miss a whole football game. Football first ... University second that's the priority.  Any normal community or institution run by normal people would have shut down the program for 2 years in order to readjust priorities and sanitize the stench. It would have earned respect and sympathy because it would recognize victimization of the community but also the self reflection that the community bought into a rediculous lie and were too invested in the lie to do the right thing for decades.  Instead the school has clung to the lie unable to let go and self deluded and addicted to the lie. It's a spectacle of concentrated human weakness and failure .[/quote]

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