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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I always wonder why atheists ask for proof of spiritual things. There isn't proof, that is why we call it "faith." If it was proven, faith would be paltry. I am not looking for proof. They said it best in "oh brother where art thou"...everybody's looking for answers. I don't have any answers for you. I do believe the incredible complexity that is life and space is a manifestation of God, who is infinite. The cosmos only makes sense when you have some faith, because the answers just keep changing as the concept of infinite gets larger and more complex.[/quote] For you, what part of the cosmos is only explained by faith? Because I have yet to come across anything that is so overly complex that I need some mystical way to explain it. [/quote] just think of the sheer unlikelihood of our very existence. It's pretty awe-inspiring. But I don't think there are any conflicts between science and Christianity as I believe it. Also, I am always puzzled as to the logic behind atheism. I deeply respect agnostics because I think the big questions are really hard but by its nature, a divine power is hard to affirmatively disprove. it seems like the scientific mind would say "it appears very unlikely, but I can't rule it out." Thus agnosticism. I feel like atheists are buying into the anti-scientific religious paradigm by allowing them to frame the terms of the discussion.[/quote] Dawkins says he's 99% atheist but because he can't disprove God, he (reluctantly) has to call himself agnostic. [/quote] Not true - he calls himself an atheist, with no reluctance. He knows that God, or any other unseen being, can't be disproved. Atheist simply refers to lack of belief whereas agnostic refers to lack of knowing. Many people who lack belief in God who have thought it through think of themselves as agnostic atheists -- they don't know and they don't believe - though they may choose to call themselves one or the other. I think some feel "agnostic" is a softer term, or one that suggests that they are still open to belief - and maybe some agnostics think that way. I think some people who call themselves atheists feel more comfortable in their non-belief. But it's all about belief -- not knowing. [/quote] You're wrong about Dawkins calling himself an atheist: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9102740/Richard-Dawkins-I-cant-be-sure-God-does-not-exist.html Apparently he called himself agnostic in The God Delusion, too. Being that it's Dawkins, I doubt he was going for a softer term. Rather, if you read the article, it seems to have something to do with intellectual integrity--he is a scientist, after all. [/quote]
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