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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I always wonder why atheists ask for proof of spiritual things.  There isn't proof, that is why we call it "faith."  If it was proven, faith would be paltry.  I am not looking for proof.

They said it best in "oh brother where art thou"...everybody's looking for answers.  I don't have any answers for you.  I do believe the incredible complexity that is life and space is a manifestation of God, who is infinite.  The cosmos only makes sense when you have some faith, because the answers just keep changing as the concept of infinite gets larger and more complex.[/quote]

For you, what part of the cosmos is only explained by faith? Because I have yet to come across anything that is so overly complex that I need some mystical way to explain it. 
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just think of the sheer unlikelihood of our very existence.  It's pretty awe-inspiring.

But I don't think there are any conflicts between science and Christianity as I believe it.

Also, I am always puzzled as to the logic behind atheism.  I deeply respect agnostics because I think the big questions are really hard but by its nature, a divine power is hard to affirmatively disprove.  it seems like the scientific mind would say "it appears very unlikely, but I can't rule it out."  Thus agnosticism.

I feel like atheists are buying into the anti-scientific religious paradigm by allowing them to frame the terms of the discussion.[/quote]

There are some pretty amazing things in our world, but I don't think a "higher power" is behind any of it. Still pretty cool though. Go, nature!

I grew up in a non-religious home but knew some people who were religious so I wondered if god existed only because some people felt so strongly about it...so I guess I was agnostic until I hit my 20s. Then as I learned more about the world and developed my own independent beliefs, the "possibility" slipped away for me. I never felt the need to absolutely prove or disprove a higher power - it just didn't exist for me. Never really did. And it was never a debate between science v. religion - that's not how I view it at all. Science/nature is just a given. In my mind, religion/higher powers are man-made constructs that meet some needs of some people. Just two different things for me, not opposing forces. Although it seems like for some religious people they explain science away with religion - bizarre.

Anyway, I do think there are some useful things about religion though and I'm exposing my kids to different religions to understand the world a little better. But I don't expect they will need religion or higher power to explain anything "mysterious" about our world. 
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