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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you can understand his writing, then I'll suggest this - http://www.bu.edu/arion/files/2010/10/Wells_21Sept2010_Layout-1.pdf

similar sentiments found here - The Evolution of God (Wright)

You simply have a belief in a belief system.  That is all.  [/quote]

Why do so many atheists, who claim to put so much stock in rationality, resort to grade-school insults to make their points? Do you guys realize that everybody tunes you out as childish bullies with nothing substantive to say?[/quote]

I'm super sick of atheists like the righteous PP in this thread.  They pick out religion for special scorn with an irrational vengeance -- religion is one kind of ideology.  Communism, socialism, fascism, secular humanism -- these are also ideologies.  We are all human -- criticizing religion as "man-made" like that's some devastating critique is ridiculous.  All ideologies are articulated to an extent by man, even if they reflect non super-natural "truths" like Marxism's materialistic interpretation of history.  For the record, I'm the OP that believes Jesus existed and loves his teachings.  I do not believe in God -- nor I do believe there is NOT a God -- I'm just indifferent and try to follow Jesus's teaching.  If others think him divine, I respect that and their belief in God.  I guess that makes me an atheist, but I am wholly opposed to the reductive, anti-religion atheism of the PP.[/quote]

PP, we know there are plenty of thoughtful atheists like you out there, and who aren't threatened by somebody else's beliefs. Live and let live.[/quote]

It would be wonderful if there were more religious believers who were not threatened by the very existence of atheists --picking out atheism for special scorn with an irrational vengeance. thinking that atheists are immoral simply because they do not believe in any of the gods of various religions and that human life ends just the way other animals' lives end -- forever.

PS - saying religions is "man-made" is not a criticism -- it's a fact.

Question: Is it a grade school insult to state, without evidence that "everybody tunes you out as childish bullies with nothing substantive to say?"

It sure is nice that not all religious people are like this.[/quote]

That's it? The one lame attempt to source the claims above--that Jesus never existed and was invented by some unidentified hegemonist--went down in flames. So there's nothing there. No scholarly support, nothing.

How quickly you give up and return to insulting people.

This, my friend, is why [b]everybody tunes you[/b] out. To answer your question, it's not an insult, it's a fact. Bonus points for playing the atheist victim card even as you continue to insult people. I wish you could appreciate the irony.[/quote]

pp above is definitely not tuning out the atheist. pp can't resist engaging.  Makes you wonder about the firmness of pp's faith.[/quote]

Hey PP, you still haven't answered a single question about your own theories:
- why we should simply ignore the early accounts of Mark and Paul (apart from your less-than-convincing mumbling about picking and choosing),
- where's proof the references to Jesus were "inserted" in Roman sources, 
and
- who, exactly, created Jesus to control the masses with passion plays or scary gods or whatever else you keep mentioning without addressing this fundamental question about origin and "who benefited" in 55 AD. Not plausibly the Romans, not plausibly the Jewish leadership, not plausibly the folks who staged passion plays [i]after[/i] there was a decent audience for these plays. So who, then[/quote]

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