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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]First fix all the schools. Like working AC and heat and peeling paint and opening windows. Make the conditions actually even across counties and states (the physical plant parts). Then pay all teachers more and thereby having more people go into the profession and be able to pick the best ones for the job. Money is needed to make it a respectable profession so you don't lose people to other sectors because the pay is abysmal. Yea there are great teachers now that have the calling but many don't go into k-12 because of conditions and low pay and limited growth. Oh and get rid of administrative bloat and give principals and teachers more autonomy and less testing! [/quote]

Their pay is equal, if not more to many similar professions only they get better benefits from many other gov't employees and get two months off plus Thanksgiving, Winter Break and Spring Break.  I am so tired of hearing they are underpaid when they have a much cushier job than social workers, public health and more.

Our teacher was complaining this year about how small her classroom was.  I thought it was huge and surprised by the comment.[/quote]

I am a pp.  You say teachers are paid better.  Better than what? Someone with a master's degree and 20 years experience?  No.  That is the education level of most teachers after a few years.  
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Social workers, nurses and other gov't professionals also have master's degree.  Our teacher has a few years experience as do most at our public school.  The principal ran off most of the seasoned ones.  Teachers are better paid.  They don't have to go to the worst parts of town into people's homes on a daily basis and much more.  Try being a front line social worker, especially somewhere like SE DC.[/quote]

you should look at what Masters earn in the federal gov't.  Or in other word, try living on a teachers salary.  35 yo's with masters make 6 figures mostly, unless they are teachers.
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I was a social worker in DC making under $40,000 a year in SE DC.  A teachers salary was higher starting and I had about 7 years experience.  Most 35 yo's with masters are not making 6 figures depending on their career field.  Teachers are not underpaid and if you feel you are, find a new profession.[/quote]

As a social worker you were not responsible for educating children. That's the key that makes teaching such a noble and unique profession. This fact was pointed out by another poster earlier in this communication by one that some deliberately overlook.[/quote]

You're right, we are not responsible for doing the actual educating, but we are responsible for making sure their educational needs get met.  Many kids in foster care or at home in at risk placements have fallen through the cracks at school and a good social worker needs to find the resources to get those kids privately assessed, get them IEP's to get their needs met in school or get them into private placements.  Its not a simple job as you may think. It is an extremely complex job trying to deal with many aspects of someone's life.   We are responsible for the failures of the school, most of which just ignore the issues rather than try to resolve them.  I can't tell your how many times I got calls from teachers about behavior.  These were good kids who fell through the cracks and didn't have the basic reading, math and writing skills to make it in jr. high or high school so they'd act up as a distraction to get out of doing work they could not do.  And, that's just one aspect of their lives.  If we had teachers who put in the effort starting early on, these kids would have been identified, pulled out for supports and possibly been in a better situation to succeed.

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Still not the same role as a teacher.

Why is that hard to understand???

This is not a pissing match. Everyone works hard. But a teacher's job is a unique one that touches ALL lives--not just those in despair, as the majority of our students will never interact with a social worker.[/quote]

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