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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]
I think Andrew Duncomb makes a good point:

“They’re blaming the racist problems on the flag and not on the real problems of America. Through the race lies the people who carry and harbor the hate inside,” Duncomb says.

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I actually don't understand what "Through the race lies the people who carry and harbor the hate inside" means. But, can you please explain, as succinctly as possible, what message people in Oklahoma would be trying to send to Obama by waving a Confederate Battle Flag?
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What Duncomb is saying is the Confederate battle flag is not to blame; it's people who harbor hate. Your animosity towards an inanimate object is blinding you. We can burn every confederate flag and some people would still be racist. What's next? Are you willing to incarcerate someone for saying something you consider racist? Force them into psychological care? [/quote]

Obviously flags have symbolic meanings. They represent something. Otherwise, why would we pledge allegiance to a flag? Why do people demonstrate their patriotism with flags? Why is a flag lapel pin so important for every politician to wear? If a flag was simply an "inanimate object", why would people go to the trouble of buying one, bringing it to a demonstration, and waving it around? Can you explain what message those who took those steps were trying to convey when they waved the flag in front of Obama? Why didn't they choose a Nazi flag, for instance, or an ISIS flag? Or, if they are only waving an "inanimate object", why not a piece of cardboard? What was special about the Confederate Battle Flag that caused them to choose to wave it and what message were they trying to send?
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The message they were trying to send is that the flag itself is not responsible for racism. That it's ridiculous to ascribe that much power to a flag, as if destroying it or striking it from history will change history, or the future. Or people's hearts.  Flags to have symbolic meaning; you see it one way, Duncomb sees it another. The problem is, is that progressives seem to want it their way or the highway. So again, after the flag is banned/destroyed, what's next?[/quote]

If this is the case, would you agree that the protesters urgently need a class in effective communication? If you or they believe that an almost entirely white group of people waving a flag while protesting a black man is an effective means of communicating that "the flag itself is not responsible for racism", I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

BTW, would you feel the same way about Nazi flags carried by protestors at synagogues? Would that be an effective means of communicating that "the flag itself is not responsible for anti-Semitism"?
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It's not my place to judge them in that manner, nor to educate them, in communication or otherwise. In a free society, they are allowed to protest in any way they see fit, so long as its not violent.

Yes, I feel the same way about Nazi flags/protestors. They have a right to protest non-violently. Nor would I consider the flag responsible for anti-semitism. The people are. The flag is simply cloth. [/quote]

But, if people were protesting at a synagogue and waving a Nazi flag -- which according to you is just a piece of cloth with no meaning -- why would you think they were anti-Semites? Why would you assume that people simply trying to send the message that the flag itself is not responsible for anti-Semitism are anti-Semites? Wouldn't you want to join them in sending their message that flags aren't the problem, people are the problem?
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I didn't say the people were. I said the flag was not responsible for what happened in Nazi Germany. People were.

Would I join them? No, because I'm not the 'protester' type in this fashion. But I would not condemn anyone who does. I would encourage anyone who finds offense in their behavior to stage their own counter-protest.  Consider the Westboro Baptist Church, military funerals and the motorcycle groups that rev their engines to drown out the protester's shouts. [/quote]

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