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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In the real world 40 hours is the minimum hours worked. So workers are in the office a lot more than govt employees realize pre-covid.

If I had a Dentist Appointment or Doctors Appointment or Kids activity and I had to leave on time. Not early. I have to ask my boss usually.

Going back to office 40 yours a week is the absolute bare minimun in real worlds.

Places I worked at we often staff it based on a 50 hour week. We could hire 20 percent less workers. We be more profitable, we have less real estate rent, less people on medical plan. And even 50 hours is not a long day. If you eat at your desk and skip lunch it is 8-6pm

And in busy season when i was big four, we usually work 8-8 every day 60 hour weeks.

In summer we worked only 40 hour a week and felt like a vacation none of us knew what to do with all the free time.

When I worked at Citigroup we had a rule unless my dept was working at least 45 hours a week each we could not hire. Makes sense, how are you short staffed if no one is working OT?

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Oh look, I used to work for an investment bank too so I'll chime in. In the "real world", you get market based bonuses, RSUs, etc to compensate you for that private sector work. In the Federal government, you're lucky if you get a cost of living adjustment that almost keeps up with inflation. These two are not the same and neither is your humble brag from a loser experience. [/quote]

Thats executives. At my place at least 50 percent of company in cubes or admin just worked those hours and got squat.  [/quote]

Wow!  What terrible career choices you made indeed!  You should have made different ones.  [/quote]

For me I did my time and did get the corner office by 45. However, the fact remains. only 10 percent of company were in senior roles. 90 percent of company did their work for little pay and long hours. And where I got my break was not at my prior company. I did work.

If people were called back to work and worked 50 hours a week. I mean like a dog, then they let Dawins Law take effect there be no need this drama. By 2026 only Rock Stars will be left   [/quote]

Really? More like only the truly desperate will be left. Which is highly unlikely to be the highest performers.[/quote]

Not true at all. At Big 4 when you make manager they always tell you 90 percent of you wont make Partner. People stay till they realize the Brass Ring is not happening. Same at FAANGMT type companies and IB. High Performers don't quit too often. Too much RSUs and bonus vesting.

My last Rodeo at a Hyper Growth start up where I was on SMT I was kicking it. But at year two Father time was catching up with me and I decided I am jumping rather than sliding. Which is something Musk and Dimon would be proud of. Put in the work and if you decide you no longer want to then leave.

Hence the problem. The young hungry people are getting kicked out and folks like me are not leaving. And I am humble. I knew I was reaching Point I could not pretend to keep us so why bother. I think a lot of people need to do this but they are not.

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Yeah, except Federal government was never supposed to be "putting in the work" like a FAANG or IB with the hope of significant payoff in bonuses or equity. The mission, quality of life, stability and long term benefits were the draw and that's going, going and almost gone.[/quote]

Faang doesn’t always have bonuses or equity.  My spouse has never gotten either.  [/quote]

It is with a catch. I got a 180K RSU sign on but it vests over four years with cliffs and then worry if it will be refreshed and with one year cliffs you get nervous before cliff date and quarterly reviews you have four times a year to get fired.

I seen lots of people canned prior to year one so got zero of sign-on. Just worked like a dog 3-10 months and out the door.  [/quote]

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