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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From what I can tell there was one poster who was upset and said something she probably didn't mean and if she did mean it I think she is wrong to think that way.

However, I do think there are biases against Asians in the MCPS admissions system as there are in many aspects of American society just as there are biases against students who are Black or Latinx. Are there more against Asians than students who are Black or Latinx? Maybe not but I don't know the answer to that and neither do you. It's ignorant of you to characterize the idea of any discrimination as ludicrous and then cite fake misleading statistics.

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Her claims (and I think it was more than one poster) were ludicrous. I’m not denying discrimination exists, but making such claims based on the evidence - a race blind process and the vast over representation of the one racial group that was claimed was discriminated against was both ludicrous and insulting to the kids that she/they suggested benefited from this alleged discrimination.[/quote]

It is not a race blind situation.  Look at the program website.[/quote]

It would be illegal for it not to be in the United States.  They cannot consider the race of the applicant,[/quote]

Everyone knows ESOL and FARMS status are a proxy for race in MCPS. There's a huge correlation and as PPs have pointed out before you can tip your hand to your race in your essays. There's no race box in the information the committee receives but to pretend it's totally race blind is just a lie. I don't agree with the poster who claims that there is a magic way MCPS is comparing Asians to only Asians but I think subtle issues exist. Subtle issues exist for other races too. [/quote]

I mean, you are sort of handwaving away some pretty big factors here, including the fact that Black and brown children in our community are disproportionately likely to live in poverty.

So, you look at that fact and assume that MCPS is considering FARMS status as a proxy for race, instead of accepting that kids living in poverty are facing a much steeper hill to climb in terms of academic achievement than their middle class or upper middle class counterparts. That's pretty cold.

This seems like a good chance to discuss structural bias vs. intrinsic bias. Poor kids, and particularly poor Black and Latino kids, face structural bias. Every single step they take is harder for a variety of reasons.

Implicit bias is the thing you are worried about here, that a kid who lists 8 years of violin and 5 years of Korean heritage language school on their application is going to face implicit bias from the reviewers. That may be true, but it's also not even nearly the same level of gatekeeping that other groups face, in part because that child has the option of not listing Korean language school. They shouldn't have to, but they have that option. A kid who is doing their homework with a flashlight because their power is turned off again doesn't have the same ability to just 'opt out' of bias. [/quote]

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