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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"[/quote] Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.[/quote] The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back. According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.[/quote] like this Canadian journalist https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?” Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers. Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs. Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.” As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias. [/quote] This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.[/quote] Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.[/quote] That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right. If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted. But again, [b]this[/b] is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways! [/quote] When you say "this" what specifically are you referring to? Presumably these are online statements, so I assume you have links.[/quote] Here’s one. This person’s comments are gross - and they are within their right to free speech to say them. But they need to accept the social and professional consequences of their statements. No decent company is going to condone this sort of speech. It’s violent and full of hate. https://mol.im/a/15100227 [/quote] When you say "social consequences" are you referring to the hundreds of death threats she's received? It's wild you are calling for people to accept that as normal. It's not normal. It's hateful and violent. Her comments were crude but not incorrect. As a wise man said recently, the Bible does not call on us to honor evil.[/quote] Social consequences = if you spew vile comments and celebrate violence and murder, expect to lose some friends. Also, btw...if you view this person's comments as "not incorrect" I would say that you are part of the problem and maybe you need to actually read the bible instead of quoting others that have. Quotes from [b]Gretchen Felker-Martin:[/b] "I hope the bullet's OK" (after Kirk's murder last Wednesday.) "Can pretty safely state that bin Laden and I did not, uh, agree on much, but blowing up the World Trade Center is probably the most principled and defensible thing he did," [/quote] I have no idea who this person is. Are the an elected official? Someone who's voice carries any weight or legitimacy?[/quote] She is a trans woman which of course means whatever she says is punishable by death threats to her and anyone they associate with her which is all "leftists" s/[/quote]
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