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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nothing says the schools have to pick their students based on academic merit alone. It's not a simple GPA/standardized test score combo that is required to gain admission. Athletes - If the schools choose to have athletic teams as an activity, why not fill them with decent players? Not shocking. Is a talented musician, academic team member, or speech/debate team member necessarily superior to or more valuable than a talented athlete under a holistic admissions approach? [/quote] Except that holistic admission shouldn’t be making you check Race Box and using that to discriminate based on race?[/quote] Right. Was stated in response to PPs stating that athletes shouldn't be given admissions "tips"/points/preferences. [/quote] To clarify, diversity on many different levels can be a goal. The schools shouldn't be using the box to eliminate people bc of their race. However, the schools also are not obligated to rank applicants solely by GPA and test scores. [/quote] So rank by race? For the 100th time, [b]nobody is saying solely use GPA + Tests.[/b] Yes they are. [/quote][/quote] they who? [/quote] People who point to a person's GPA and Test and say they don't belong over other students that have higher SAT and GPA.[/quote] Oh no, they also have excellent ECs, Awards, Essaasy, etc., so they don't have to say SAT and GPA only. So that's the problem. You are mistaken. [/quote] Actually, you are mistaken. Many people are arguing if somebody has a higher SAT they think they have a right to be chosen over the lower SAT especially if everything else is equal.[/quote] Oh no, many people are arguing an individual should not be discriminated based on race. [/quote] But they are using SAT scores to prove they are "discriminated" against. [/quote] If black students were getting denied admission while white students with lower scores were getting admitted, you would certainly regard this as proof of racial discrimination.[/quote] DP: But that happens all the time. Legacy admits, kids in sports like sailing and skeet shooting - get admitted all the time with lower scores compared to minority students— in the name of “diversity “. College admissions were almost completely based on race up until very recent decades. As long as those students were white, most white Americans were more than fine with it.[/quote]
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