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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nothing says the schools have to pick their students based on academic merit alone. It's not a simple GPA/standardized test score combo that is required to gain admission.

Athletes - If the schools choose to have athletic teams as an activity, why not fill them with decent players? Not shocking. Is a talented musician, academic team member, or speech/debate team member necessarily superior to or more valuable than a talented athlete under a holistic admissions approach? [/quote]

Except that holistic admission shouldn’t be making you check Race Box and using that to discriminate based on race?[/quote]
Right. Was stated in response to PPs stating that athletes shouldn't be given admissions "tips"/points/preferences. [/quote]
To clarify, diversity on many different levels can be a goal. The schools shouldn't be using the box to eliminate people bc of their race. However, the schools also are not obligated to rank applicants solely by GPA and test scores. [/quote]

So rank by race?

For the 100th time, [b]nobody is saying solely use GPA + Tests.[/b]
Yes they are.

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they who?  
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People who point to a person's GPA and Test and say they don't belong over other students that have higher SAT and GPA.[/quote]

Oh no, they also have excellent ECs, Awards, Essaasy, etc., so they don't have to say SAT and GPA only.
So that's the problem.  You are mistaken.
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Actually, you are mistaken. Many people are arguing if somebody has a higher SAT they think they have a right to be chosen over the lower SAT especially if everything else is equal.[/quote]

Oh no, many people are arguing an individual should not be discriminated based on race.  [/quote]

But they are using SAT scores to prove they are "discriminated" against. [/quote]

If black students were getting denied admission while white students with lower scores were getting admitted, you would certainly regard this as proof of racial discrimination.[/quote]

actually this is the case in the UNC case, they admitted a few Black kids but there are a lot of admits of white kids with lower scores. They need to get rid of legacy and they would keep sports but as a separate section-- as in there is a certain quota for athletes in the class and no-one else can get in based on athletic performance won that percentage has been filled. At least that would be transparent. [/quote]

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