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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Coming in late: death certificate says “homocide”, wth is the debate about???[/quote]

Homicide, as they said earlier in the trial, isn't a legal designation or something that results in an automatic conviction. There are only a few options; "natural", "suicide", "homicide", "other" (am I missing one?). So the ME said homicide, but the defense is arguing that that's a medical opinion.[/quote]

Homicide from a medical viewpoint doesn't imply intent or malice.  [/quote]

I thought the defense attorney did a great job explaining that and with his closing argument.  I was a full guilty and now I could not convict.  I am concentrating on the entire incident, not just the 9 minutes.[/quote]

Same.  His earnestness is a plus.  [/quote]

Agreed. Can be more effective than a polished performance[/quote]

Same. I am an attorney and was very much in the guilty camp for at least the second and third offenses (I was always doubtful on the top charge).  After hearing the defense’s closing arguments, i could not convict on any of the charges. I am flabbergasted at my change in view.   [/quote]

I am as well.  I was a total guilty until today.  I took out the emotion and studied the video from the officer’s camera, and didn’t just focus on the 9 minutes.  It was eye opening, and I would not convict.  I predict a hung jury and no retrial.[/quote]

How about we kneel lightly on Chauvin's neck for 9 minutes and then let him go free.

It's protocol, right?[/quote]

How about he get in the car and he would be alive?[/quote]

They tried to calmly put him in the car multiple times, even offered to keep the windows open for him. And he resisted and struggled back preventing them from putting him in there because he was a harm to himself demonstrating by his injury and guess what he was screaming while they were trying to put him in the car? “I can’t get in there. I’m going to die, I’m going to die, man. It’s going to kill me. I’m going to die. I just had covid. I’m going to die.” This is when he was standing by the cop car and the cops were trying to put him in there. That reasonably alters the perception those cops would have when he is later yelling the same words for something that also doesn’t typically lead to dying[/quote]

They offered to sit with him, roll the windows down, turn on the AC, but he refused.  I believe because he knew he had drugs on and in him.  He fought very hard to just not sit in a car.....when he just got out of a car.  [/quote]

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