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The fun starts when "proving a negative" atheists like Dawkins try to prove the scientific method is the only way to know truth.  But that will have to wait for a later post.[/quote]

So much blather.  As far as Dawkins trying "to prove a negative", you'll probably want to show your work.  Anyway, I think you like to hear yourself think a lot more than you're interested in a structured argument.  Frankly, most of this stuff just doesn't cohere.  It's just somewhat sloppy thinking designed to elicit an "Amen" from the choir.  There's no evidence that you've even understood half of what's been said to you.

Bottom line is, [b]you believe in God because you were told to from an early age, in a culture that privileged the Judeo-Christian God, and you're working backwards from that conclusion.[/b]  All the rhapsodizing about "opaqueness being reflected back into the eye" and mischaracterizing the position of non-theists is bluster.  Could there be a metaphysical world?  Of course, so long as it's one which we can never sense, influence, or have influence us.  But that doesn't get us very far.  As far as you various "kinds of truths":  #1 which pretty much equates to "the irrational", #3 is "the rational", and #2 is what is usually referred to as "hokum".  We dealt with this about 30 comments ago (e.g. "The Miracle of the Sun", and "My Pancake Looks A Bit Like Judas Iscariot")[/quote]

This made me smile.  If I happened to share I was raised by fundamentalist atheist parents who come from the other side of the world where Christianity is almost unheard of, you would not believe me, and that is only appropriate, since you would have to have faith in me ;)  But your assumptions are telling.

As for examples of the different ways to know the truth:
#1  revealed truth (like the Trinity)
#2  revealed truth that can be known by reason (there is one God, there is objective morality, man is material and immaterial)
#3  truth that can be known by reason (laws of physics, logic)

Dawkins gets his own post.

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