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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The difference is if your daughter is on the bottom end of an ECNL Roster she may get on the field at a top showcase with hundreds of coaches watching and have an opportunity to show what she has. Bottom of the barrel D1 schools and D3 schools are the only ones watching non ECNL/DA teams now. There are a few exceptions but not many.

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College coaches are recruiting around 6 - 8 kids per year NATIONWIDE. If you’re daughter is on the bottom half of an ECNL team - you’ll find very few takers.  Don’t take my word for it - at your next ID day’s question and answer session - ask the coach!  He / she will not say “I really make a point of watching the kids who aren’t that good”.   No, they look at the kids everyone is watching - and then they move on after a few minutes to watch the other top kids.  Even top D3 schools aren’t looking for mediocre players - they are looking for players that want to go to the best schools in the country that might need help getting through admissions. They too only want to win - or they’re out of a job. [/quote]

Yes the cut down rate is about 10% - ie only 10%(give or take) of the whole age group nation wide will play in college. Is your kid in the top 10% of players in your league(not your club)? [/quote]

Bad reasoning. It assumes all leagues nationwide are of the same quality.[/quote]

Original poster her: I too like a reasoned argument - so I did a little research on the Class of 2018 in Virginia with the assistance of TopDrawerSoccer.

My conclusion is that if your daughter is not in the top half of her elite soccer team, you should pull her out of her DA / ECNL club and reinvest the money saved ($8000 per year) in having her instead play in a local club and have her enrolled in private training.  This is to improve her soccer skills, game play, fitness, etc and have her tryout the following year to make sure she is on the top half of the roster.  Please note that I have used some web sites like GotSoccer, TopDrawerSoccer and others to provide a reasoned argument.

Facts:
- There are about 80 soccer clubs in Virginia

- For the most recent graduating class of 2018 - 83 girls are playing soccer in college - and out that number - 58 girls in Virginia committed to play for a D1 program.  So estimating that there are 16 per roster - that means there was an estimated 1280 girls who graduated high school in 2018 playing on any club team in Virginia.  That means only 4.5% are committed to play in a D1 program.

- Of the 58 girls, only 40 of them played for either an ECNL or DA club last year in Virginia AND committed to a D1 program.  The remaining played for non-DA / ECNL clubs (like Beach FC, SOCA, Herndon, etc).

- If there were 5 DA / ECNL clubs in Virginia last year - that means 8 players per team were picked up on average by D1 programs.

- On average, the rosters of the D1 schools have 28 players on them - and there are only 14 full scholarships allowed per NCAA rules.  So assuming everything is equal (and it isn't) the 48 players would be on 50% scholarship.

Therefore, if you live in Virginia and you wish for your kid to play D1 - be on the top half of your teams roster!  If you kid is not playing - then save the $8000 and put it into a mutual fund every year and use the proceeds to pay for private training to get her into the top 8 of your team.  That's my reasoning.[/quote]

The argument to pull out if you aren't a starter right now is still very flawed, unless you are directing the argument at the older girls in the ECNL/DA tier who are on the bench.  By then, I'm not sure trying to save the money for extra training is going to make that much of a difference anyway.  Better to save it for college expenses.   For the younger ages though, there is ample opportunity to improve and to gain a starting spot by the older ages.   And, even using your research, if you start on an ECNL/DA club, you have an excellent chance of playing D1.   You can't say that about the non ECNL/DA clubs, who are much less represented in D1 on both a numbers and percentage basis.   Your data actually bolsters the counter argument for ECNL/DA girls; work as hard as you can to become the best player you can be.  If you wind up a starter in your older years in ECNL/DA, you have an excellent chance at playing D1.[/quote]

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