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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If so many children are being cared for by non-English speaking caregivers, then why isn't there a crisis in the DC area of American-born children entering kindergarten with broken English skills?

I don't think all those ESOL classes are full of daycare kids.

Wow, it's amazing how far some people will go in claiming daycare is awful in order to justify their own choice in how to raise their children.  If you are so pleased as punch with yourselves for being SAHM then just be happy with that.  Why are you trying so very hard to prove your way is better?

Plenty of SAHMs are well adjusted, educated, and secure in their life choices.  But wow ... some literally have nothing going for them so their entire identity is wrapped up in SAH.  My guess is that these are the SAHMs who cannot find a job that will cover the cost of quality childcare or who have absentee spouses so they are default single parents.  I feel sorry for your children that your entire self esteem is wrapped up in being a "better" parent than everyone else.  The same goes for working moms who get their self esteem from their career and tell SAHMs they are worthless.

To all you normal moms, this post isn't about you.  Most of us also have identities (hobbies, possibly careers, volunteer activities, loving marriages, etc.) and don't need to resort to shaming other moms to feel good about ourselves.  I wish we could start our own forum and kick out the zealots.[/quote]

Hello. There IS a crisis. It's politely called "special needs." Speech therapy galore.[/quote]

Funny how I know SAHMs whose kids have speech and language issues.  What can they blame it on if these problems are allegedly caused by childcare?  Also, the child mind is much more adept at picking up differences and adapting to hearing multiple languages.  I have never seen a single study claim children being exposed to multiple languages are somehow harmed. In fact the opposite is quite true.[/quote]
I don't care WHO is supposed to be doing the care, but POOR quality care usually has POOR quality results. 
Agree?[/quote]
At least one person here seems to have missed my above comment.
And no, I'm not done here.[/quote]
[b]Plus, I don't think all the "special needs" children in speech therapy suddenly inherited their parents bad genes. Either too much TV or poor quality care during the first three foundational years of life. Or both. So sad.[/quote]
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Wait. You're blaming SN parents for causing their children's special needs by letting them watch too much TV or leaving them in a bad daycare?

You are too much of a jerk to be an actual human being.  The SN parents I know work harder than anyone else I've ever met -- 24/7.

You're despicable.  Please go somewhere and try and find a soul. [/quote]
Calm down, lady. Let's focus on taking some appropriate responsibility rather than "blaming" anyone.

Here's the question:
Do you believe children with broken-English (at best) primary caregivers, are likely to have a solid command of language by age three?

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You are fucking crazy. Seriously. I debated with you a few days ago then let the thread - come back and you're at it with others. What is your end game here?[/quote]

Nope, sorry - different person you're now "debating".  Might want to stop assuming only one person holds any given opinion.  [/quote]

Oh good grief- if you're so worried about being mistaken for someone else, sign up for a bloody username!! Seriously, it is not that hard. Otherwise accept that similar posts may be attributed to the same person.[/quote]

Especially when that person is now saying that kids are speech delayed because of ESOL caregivers. And these are the women who claim they're such a great influence on their snowflakes! I just ... I can't.[/quote]

I am one of the previous posters who said that having a non-English speaking person care for [i]my [/i]baby/toddler/young child would not be optimum, especially as we're trying to establish English first and foremost.  I also pointed out that most childcare providers do not speak English as their first language.  I am not, however, the poster who says speech delayed kids are due to having ESOL caregivers.

I believe there are several other posters with similar, yet varying points of view on this topic.  Got it?[/quote]

Yup - you're a FTM SAHM.  Cute.[/quote]

Actually, no - but you keep on going with the assumptions.  It only makes you look more foolish.[/quote]

she's foolish?

to quote you:
[i]most childcare providers do not speak English as their first language. [/i]

there are no words.[/quote]

You actually seem to have plenty of words... I'm sorry you don't like hearing the truth, but there it is.[/quote]

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