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well, I want to go around naked but society forces me to wear clothes. is that barbaric? in western countries the governments certainly dictate how little women should expose since generally walking around without with boobs exposed is not allowed.   if people can be forced to wear some clothes in secular western countries, I don't see why we cannot outlaw the burka and ask a woman to show at least her face in public (since wearing the burka is not a religious requirement at all, as proven daily by the hundreds of millions of non-burka wearing Muslim women in the world)

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Wearing a miniskirt is not a religious requirement either. Can I outlaw that?[/quote]

sure you can, but then you are voted out and the law is canceled  because today in France miniskirst are accepted.  the government in France or the US regulates plenty of stuff, if you can use pot, if you can drink alcohol depending on your age, if you can buy weapons and carry them and so on.  laws changes with times and based on how a society evolves. wearing a miniskirt or even a bikini was scandalous and probably not allowed in 1900 in France, while now is allowed and perceived as normal, even though you can go to the beach totally dressed and it is also perfectly ok.  so the government can certainly prohibit a garment that totally covers a person and makes the person unrecognizable.  while women in France and other western European country dress in the most wide variety of ways, all perfectly acceptable (including wearing a veil on their heads), the burka is totally outside of the current social customs of these countries.  it is hard to argue with a straight face that if you are a non Muslim woman in France and you are shy and prefer to dress conservatively you wear a burka.  people who wear a burka in France do not want to integrate in French society (even the ones who are born there), they live there but act as if they were in Yemen.  [/quote]
First of all, you don't know what a burka is, so go ahead and look it up before you start looking any more ignorant than you are already.  And I never knew integrating into a society is as easy as accepting their dress code.  You should tell that to the 9/11 hijackers - all wearing Western garb, you know.

OK. Let's follow your logic.  An uncovered woman is totally against current social customs in the Gulf Arab countries.  Then let's stop calling these governments oppressive because they tell their citizens how to dress.  Congratulations, you've just achieved a dubious honor of parity with Al-Saud.

Also, women living by themselves, dating, making their own decisions and forging an independent path is totally against the customs of these societies.  Their governments are perfectly in the right for banning all of these.

Openly practicing religions other than Islam is totally against the social customs in the Gulf Arab states.  Their governments are completely in the right for banning any open expressions of Christianity, construction of churches, celebrating religious holidays, etc.

Before you embarrass yourself any longer, here's the answer: certain rights are not and should not be subject to majority decisions.  If the majority of people voted to bring slavery back, would it be OK to do it? If the state of Alabama wants to ban interracial marriages and have a reasonable hope of achieving a majority decision on this, should they be allowed to do so?[/quote]

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