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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It could also be writer/director Claire Ayoub, who made the film Empire Waist with Wayfarer as producer. The movie was actually filmed in 2021, so not in conflict with IEWU and more likely that Baldoni might have been dropping by the set. It didn't premiere in the US until September 2024 and I don't think it had an in-person premiere, just a streaming release. The movie co-stars Rainn Wilson, longtime Baldoni pal and fellow member of his church.

Or it could be Roshan Sethi, director of A Nice Indian Boy, or Zarna Gang, one of the costars who is also a well-established standup and podcasters and may have a decent amount of sway on the set. Jamey Heath and others from Wayfarer attended the premiere in March of 2024 (at SXSW) but Baldoni did not. Production on this one would have conflicted with IEWU though so less likely Baldoni could have been on set.[/quote]

This is my post from weeks ago speculating the "mystery declarant" could be Claire Ayoub. I was right! I'm a little surprised because I'd been persuaded by people saying they were unlikely to be a woman since the declaration didn't emphasize that. But the timing and Ayoub's position in the production made so much more sense than anyone else people were suggesting.[/quote]

I would like to give you your flowers for this, except that on this movie flowers has become something of a loaded term lol.  Anyway, kudos to you on the sleuthing -- very impressive!  You are like the only person that ever mentioned Ayoub's name in connection with this declaration as a guess![/quote]

Ayoub was one of a small list of people it could have been -- it was very obviously a director or person at a similar level on a relatively recent Wayfarer production. So Ayoub, Sethi, Scarlett Johansson, someone involve with Will & Harper... really only a handful of options because Wayfarer has not made that many movies. And really the timing didn't make sense for most of these because Baldoni would not have been able to be on set for most of these movies due to the nature of filming (Will & Harper was a documentary about a road trip) or the filming conflicted with IEWU.

The people speculating that it was Ari Emmanuel, Liz Plank, Ryan Reynolds, etc., were all engaged in wishful thinking and clearly not really reading the declaration. Or handwaving the ways these people didn't fit with "whatever, Blake lies."

There just seems to be an extremely loose relationship between many people watching this case and logic or reasoning. [/quote]

Baldoni supporters saying it was Reynolds were the craziest, to me.  No logic whatsoever.  In the quote, he is referring to Lively and Reynolds.  THEY were the two dead bodies.  So if he was talking to Reynolds at the time, he wouldn't say, "There will be two dead bodies. ... They better not test me."  [or whatever language he used -- but it was "they" not "you"]

The Baldoni supporters claim to be armchair detectives etc but some of them are very dense.  [/quote]

And the way they have gone after Ayoub, very fine upstanding people. So much support for other women. Bur supposedly it's all "organic". Sure! When their case goes awry they come after the "bots". So predictable.[/quote]

I haven’t seen anyone on the thread come after her. It’s more just that the story seems inconsequential. Baldoni still does not have a history of sexual harassment and for us to be a year in and all we are seeing is this is not going to help Blake. [/quote]

The declaration was never presented as evidence of  a history of SH. It doesn't allege SH.

It was presented as evidence that Steve Sarowitz issued a violent threat towards Lively and Reynolds, which is pretty important evidence in the retaliation case. And the fact that Ayoub recorded the conversation, and that she appears to have been independently driven to do so based on previous negative experiences with Wayfarer, and that she has no connection to Reynolds or Lively, make her declaration and potential testimony more persuasive to a jury.

And yes, Ayoub could wind up testifying. If the recording is deemed admissible, something that will be determined before trial, Lively would have to call Ayoub in order to get the recording entered into evidence, so the jury could hear it. There is no one else with direct knowledge of the video's creation, so it would have to be Ayoub. It is debatable what, if anything, Ayoub would be allowed to say about he prior negative interactions with Baldoni. It would depend on how the judge ruled on the relevance versus prejudicial quality of such testimony.it would also depend on if and how Wayfarer's lawyers cross examined Ayoub.

So yes, Ayoub and her declaration are consequential. To say otherwise is to totally misunderstand the nature of this lawsuit.[/quote]

She would be allowed to say zero about negative  interactions with  Baldoni, that’s the kind of wrong judicial decision that wpild result in a successful appeal.  Not even in a gray area here.

The recording independently is likely inadmissible  at trial because it was illegally recorded.  Illinois. California and Connecticut are two party consent states and she did not tell him she was recording.  I believe WF already has argued this.[/quote]

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