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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One of the major problems is the practice of "anchor babies".[/quote]

Usha Vance is an anchor baby. [/quote]

I’m the same kind of “anchor baby” as Usha Vance (born in the US to two Indian parents here on student visas), and also a Democrat who voted for Harris. I don’t think the legal basis for the EO is sound based on the language of the 14th Amendment, but I’m fine with the policy. Birthright citizenship is pretty dumb in this day and age.

My parents got their green cards when I was in elementary school and were naturalized when I was 12. I think it would have been perfectly reasonable for me to become a naturalized citizen, as their minor child, at the same time as them. That’s the type of policy change that would affect the children of legal immigrants and it’s the commonly used method for citizenship for the children of immigrants in most other first world countries. It’s not inhumane or really a bad policy at all. [/quote]

I guess one big change is that those people (born 30 days after the EO unless the courts strike it down) can't run for the presidency. Also, the immigration system is dysfunctional as is, do we really need to add more complications to it? (I know these things get processed as families, but still...) Finally, I think birthright citizenship makes the US special in a good way. No matter where you come from, if your kids are born here, they're American. This is not the case in Europe and it takes immigrants much longer to integrate as a result.[/quote]

This is a key point. For a long time, there was a divide in the western world because the jus soli countries - the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, the UK, and much of South America - that needed immigrants and jus sanguinis countries - much of Europe and Japan - where the national identity is associated with a particular ethnic group. Australia, NZ, and the UK have all but abandoned jus soli over the past couple of decades as immigration has become more controversial.[/quote]

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