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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/uvalde-shooting-police-response-timeline/index.html

According to the timeline, the cops didn’t stand around while the shooter was “killing babies”. [b]The high likelihood is he did all his murders in the first 15 minutes of entry. [/b][/quote]

They were at the door within minutes.  Imagine the possibility that some of those children bled out while they waited, and possibly could have been saved had they breached the door earlier. 
No, they didn't pull the trigger, and the shooter is ultimately responsible.  But what they did was indefensible. 
Do you have kids?  Can you imagine the abject terror of the children locked in that room with a gunman for over an hour, begging for help from police?  It sickens me to look at my Teo young children and imagine them going through that...or anyone else's kids.[/quote]

That is an absolutely lie. There are 9/11 calls within the timeline of the cops standing outside the door from kids inside the classroom pleading for 'police' only to be dead once they breeched it 90 minutes in.

He entered classrooms 111/112 at 11:33AM. A female student IN THOSE CLASSROOMS called police at 12:03PM and again at 12:13PM. And a third time at 12:16PM. She reported that at least 9 of her classmates were still alive.

A child was on the phone from 12:36PM - 12:47PM. The mass shooter died at 12:58PM.

https://apnews.com/article/texas-school-shooting-timeline-6069b0cf01e5f732ef55f9fd0b7109d7[/quote]

Yeah, that's what I said.  I'm the PP you quoted.  Exactly where did I lie?  The officers standing outside the door likely could have saved some of those poor kids.[/quote]

I'm talking to the OP who posted before you - [b]The high likelihood is he did all his murders in the first 15 minutes of entry. [/b][/quote]

But they didn’t all die in the first 15 minutes. Some could have been saved. Some were still alive an hour later and died at the hospital.

The training for the cops is 1. Stop the killing by taking out the shooter and then 2. Stop the dying by getting immediate help for the injured who are still alive. There is no training to wait an hour. [/quote]

It’s possible, but unlikely that any children shot with an AR15 would survive. I mean, we can hope, and we certainly want to respond quickly in case anyone is alive and try to save them. But realistically, that’s just not how those guns work, not the physics or biology of the situation. Some of these kids had to be identified from DNA. When an adult is shot, doctors have described the organ damage as being like when a melon is smashed with a sledgehammer. So basically unless they were just grazed, hits are going to be lethal. That’s why people want these guns banned. It’s hard to survive.

It’s true that they didn’t all die before the cops got there though. The cops told the kids to call out if they needed help, and when a girl called out for help, the gunman found her and shot her. https://www.kens5.com/amp/article/news/special-reports/uvalde-school-shooting/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-fourth-grader-student-account-elementary/273-51cc4e26-7a0a-49c0-ba7a-48cdd47fa235[/quote]

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