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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You should be trying to get them to stay. That is S Arlington’s only hope![/quote]

How do they help the schools? If they're just going to opt out rather than help integrate, why in the world should we care about keeping them?[/quote]

It's like you're responding to a completely different comment. They help the schools [b]if they stay[/b], so you should be trying to get them to stay.

Your attitude towards these people is irrelevant - they exist, and further they are acting rationally. This is the prisoner's dilemma: if everyone chose to send their kids to the neighborhood school, everyone would have the best outcome. But since you get screwed if you decide to send your kid to the school, and other people don't, then it's completely rational to opt out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

You can't just complain and judge people because they don't send their kids there. Instead, try to figure out how to get over the hump where a critical mass will decide to stay. This isn't an easy problem, but it's pointless to just say "we don't need them" because actually you do need them.

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The problem with this argument is that a whole bunch of them on here are clamoring for more option schools to get them out as the only real solution. That doesn't keep families in neighborhood schools, by definition it is the exact opposite. We have enough option schools already, more isn't going to make these problems better. We have already covered strategically locating the option schools we have, and I agreed with that. So unless there is some third unspoken possibility out there that you're referring to I have no idea what we're arguing about.[/quote]

Yes, it does help families in neighborhood schools. You insist on thinking about UMC kids in binary terms: that them going to an option school means they aren't going neighborhood and therefore "hurting" the local school. THEY WERE NEVER GOING TO GO THERE. At least with option schools, you keep the UMC kids, you give poor kids the opportunity to go to a school like claremont, which has a very active and well resourced student body, and by placing it in the poorest neighborhood you "crack" the poverty concentrated in one school across three. We do need more option schools, for this very reason. Option school enrollment as a share of total enrollment is going down, making their usefulness for addressing disparities less effective each year.[/quote]

Claremont isn't going to cease to exist because we don't create a third immersion program. But how has the presence of Claremont helped the students left behind in Randolph? That is the logical step you keep skipping.[/quote]

It hasn't, partially BECAUSE Claremont admissions were guaranteed to other neighborhoods which ultimately left very few spaces for others outside the zone.  Also without full-force effort to reach out to the community and recruit for option programs, the majority of the Randolph zone (Barcroft Apts) isn't likely to go seeking options elsewhere when they can get what they believe they need literally across the street.[/quote]

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