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Sometimes women would lie and they were asked not to lie.[/quote]
Then why weren't men asked not to lie? Didn't men lie too, sometimes?[/quote]

I think theres a piece you are missing. Engaging men in the same discussion is futile because men have no way of saying which children they fathered. As much as you may think equality needed to be imposed here, you can not because its clear which woman is the mother but unclear as to which man is the father.

Think of the conversation:

Muhammad: did you father any illegitimate children?
Man: maybe, I might have. I have no idea which child though.

Then what?![/quote]
Actually, there's a piece YOU are missing.  That piece is that the pledge was forward-looking. It did not ask women to prove they haven't done it in the past. It asked women to promise not to do it in the future.  So yes, equality can be easily imposed here, and the conversation would have gone like this:

Man: Hello Muhammad, I'd like to join your tribe.
Muhammad: Sure.  Do you promise not to lie, not to steal, not to fornicate and not to father children out of wedlock?
Man: Sure, sounds doable.
Muhammad: Come on in.[/quote]

Yes it was forward thinking. BUT if a woman was lying about paternity, she was not admitted into the tribe. This is why questioning took place, to see if she was unfairly putting responsibility on her lawful husband AND if so, no admission.[/quote]

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