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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So I’m watching the abc Hulu special because why not - I didn’t know BL did a film with Woody Allen.  I just can’t reconcile that someone who would work with WA truly believes her own complaints.[/quote]

That's the movie she was promoting with Parker Posey when she did that interview where the journalist compliments her "baby bump" and then Lively rips into her and barely participates for the rest of the interview.

I remember when that video circulated last year (perhaps because of Baldoni's astroturfing efforts? it's all so ridiculous at this point) that aspect of it was especially annoying to me. Here's Lively promoting a movie directed by a guy who is known to be a toxic misogynist and maybe-pedophile (whether you believe the pedophile accusations or not, there is zero question as to whether Allen is a total sleezebag when it comes to women), and yet she's offended by a female journalist saying something kind and complimentary about a pregnancy that Lively had publicly announced. It was really infuriating.[/quote]

There is zero evidence of astroturfing. I wish you’d stop casually lying and presenting fake facts.[/quote]

There is absolutely evidence of astroturfing. According to their own texts, Baldoni's crisis management team engaged Jed Wallace to help shift the online narrative around Lively (Wallace is known for astroturfing like this) and they later credit him, specifically, with a shift in the online narrative against Lively.

I don't like Lively but that doesn't mean Baldoni didn't also engage in very sketchy and unpleasant behaviors, sorry.[/quote]

No. Words mean things, so sorry. There is evidence that Wallace was retained, and there is evidence that over time, BookTok (I know) and celebrity-gossip sites were zoned in on how bad the promotional tour for this film was. There is no evidence that Lively’s already for-sht reputation plummeted again after Wayferer retained the PR firm due to actions of the firm. Her team of mid lawyers are asking everyone to draw an inference in lieu of anything like proof.[/quote]

Wallace astroturfs. That's what he does. He hires people to seed social media with links and comments that support whatever narrative his clients want to support.

I agree Lively is responsible for a good bit of the bad press she received last summer, and it's apparent that Baldoni's team didn't have to work as hard as they thought they would to turn public sentiment against her because of all her own stupid decisions, both in the promotion of IEWU and her previous behavior in the press. But there is clear evidence that Baldoni hired a crisis management team who outlined a plan to use Jed Wallace to turn public sentiment against Lively, and there is also evidence he was in fact hired and later credited by that team with a shift in sentiment. Whether his engagement led to a worsening in Lively's reputation does not mean there was no astroturfing. There is every indication that there absolutely was astroturfing.

I don't know why it's so hard for some of you to believe that maybe there is no "good guy" in this story. Baldoni could be right about Lively and Reynolds AND still have done some shady, dishonest stuff. I've read all complaints and while there may be a hierarchy of who is the most awful and who is the least awful, my take away is that most of these people are pretty awful and were engaged in a tit-for-tat PR battle where there were no clean hands.[/quote]

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