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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][twitter][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Jill Biden's response to Hur in a fund raising email.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/11/jill-biden-special-counsel-report[/quote]

I'm losing respect for Jill with every day that goes by.  She needs to insist Biden step down, but she won't.  It's really disgraceful.[/quote]

She should insist her husband be prosecuted, his memory is fine. [/quote]
There isn’t evidence to support a prosecution. As has been stated in the report. [/quote]

There’s plenty of evidence. Willful removal and possession of classified documents going back decades. This is not subject to argument - it is a fact.

The ONLY reason he is not being prosecuted is because he’s mentally unfit to stand trial. [/quote]

Not at all fact.  You are just making shit up.  That is NOT AT ALL what the report said.  The investigation is done, no evidence of willful misconduct, the report says Biden's testimony was clear and compelling, and THAT is not subject to argument.  CASE IS CLOSED.  Your personal opinions to the contrary are invalid and irrelevant.[/quote]

What a load of crap.

The very first paragraph of the report said that he found Biden WILLFULLY  took and retained classified material.  
And, he did not say his testimony was "clear and compelling."  He said what was clear was that Biden had memory issues.

Yes... the case was closed.

So, we have a president who on one hand isn't mentally strong enough to be charged, yet mentally strong enough to be the leader of the free world.

Make it make sense.  [/quote]

So, you only read the first paragraph and not the rest of the document where he was pretty specific in saying no crimes were committed and no charges were warranted.[/quote]

PP hasn't even read the first paragraph!  He's lying about even that!  The first paragraph says "We conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter.1 We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president."[/quote]

No criminal charges warranted because he has such a bad memory.....

"We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Eiden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory. Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him-by then a former president well into his eighties-of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."[/quote]

No charges because they have no evidence. It doesn’t matter what Biden would say if they had any real evidence. They didn’t.

The so-called bad memory is about questions like “Who packed this box in your office 15 years ago?” “Where was the box before it was moved to your garage?” “Who moved it to your garage?” “When?”  “Why?” 
Any sane person being asked those questions by a prosecutor would say “I don’t remember.” Who remembers that kind of trivial shit with certainty.

If a few documents and personal notes sat in a box with a bunch of mundane non classified office clutter for a dozen years, and there is no evidence that anyone ever did anything with any of the documents, then of course a jury would believe it was an innocent mistake with no willful intent. Because they have no evidence of intent but also no evidence of any harm. [/quote]

All BS.
He accessed the documents and information.  He even told his ghostwriter that he found the classified information. 
And, the ghostwriter deleted some of his files even when he knew there was an investigation.

Face it... Biden had classified docs and information.  Even leading back to his Senate days. 
He accessed them when putting together a book.  He shared classified information.

The only reason he is not being charged is because his memory is so poor that Hur doesn't think a jury would convict.  
Yet, he is sharp enough to be president?
Give me a break. [/quote]

You’re a liar.[/quote]

DP.  You're making a fool of yourself every time you childishly respond, "You're a liar!"  The PP is correct.  [/quote]

DP - I think the PP to whom you replied was actually correct but agree that it is not helpful to respond with “you’re a liar”. Obviously, it is a matter of different interpretations of the report.

For me: There was no evidence of criminal intention to acquire or retain the security documents. The report is clear on that.

Also I think Biden is sharp enough to be president. He has a lot of experience that has helped to stabilize the country after a very chaotic period under #45. The economy is doing well and relations with important allies are in good order again.

I hope Biden and Trump do have a debate as it will make it easier to judge their comparative current mental and leadership capabilities better. [/quote]

It’s not a matter of interpretation.  The report clearly says the main reason he couldn’t charge was because he couldn’t prove Biden knew the classified docs were there.  If he could have proved that, whether Biden knew what year Beaux died is totally irrelevant.  [/quote]

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