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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming. [/quote]
I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.[/quote]

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.[/quote]

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo![/quote]

The lesser of two evils.[/quote]

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.[/quote]

Was it the mean tweets? Because the world was a safer, less violent and more prosperous place under Trump.[/quote]

Hmm those riots at the capital were pretty peaceful as well as protests at Charlottesville with the tiki torches. [/quote]

Those Tiki Torches in Charlottesville are almost quaint compared to some of the things I’ve heard people who are in MY party  say about Jews like me in the last three weeks. I’m stepping back from thinking of myself as a moderate Democrat. I’ve seen what other people who also describe themselves as moderate Democrats are saying about me, and we are not the same people. I’m not even sure we’re the same species at this point. I’m no5 prone to dramatics like burning voter registration cards or anything, but I’m going to be changing the way I vote. I hope Ron DeSantis is the republican nominee next year, because if he is, I’m voting for him and will do my best to convince everyone I know to vote for him too. I might even vote for Trump, if the choice is between Trump and Biden, because the Democratic Party needs a housecleaning event and losing everything might be what’s necessary to achieve it. So be it. [/quote]

I have been very curious when democrats were going to start calling out the glaring hypocrisy of their own.  You have a couple dozen glassbowls parading through the night with tiki torches chanting "we will not be replaced" and democrats scream about THERE IS NO BOTH SIDES! NAZIS!
And yet in the last three weeks there has been more nazi like sentiment and behavior on the left, supporting genocide, full throated protests calling for the eradication of peoples and its been barely a shrug.  
And some are actually defending the "kids" aka grown a$$ adults at elite schools that signed documents expressing joy for the carnage.  I mean WTAF. 
I am sure fringe white supremacist wish they could get this much adulation and support as the real Nazis are right now.  [/quote]

Democrats do not agree with the far left who express anti-semetic rhetoric. This isn't hard. There are racists of all stripes that Trump and MAGAism has unleashed in this country. They are the "deplorables" that the right criticized Hillary to no end about. the different, you don't see mainstream Dems embracing the rhetoric. Same cannot be said for the right.[/quote]

I’m a democrat. And what’s scary is that progressive democrats fan the flames of it. You have Ilhan Omar who doesn’t even hide her anti semitism. The rest of the squad is just as bad. As a Democrat, I am in a position where we need to caucus with progressives but after the past month I cannot and will not be able to vote for them.

Jamal Bowman represents my district - I didn’t vote for him in the primary but held my nose and voted for him in 2020, but I will not vote for him again after he refused to vote for a bill condemning Hamas. Our district is probably 20% Jewish, has been redsitricted since 2020, and I sincerely hope he is primaried and loses next year.

The squad cannot be trusted when it comes to antisemitism and extremism, and it’s real problem for democrats. [/quote]

Please direct me to any examples of Ilhan Omar’s antisemitism.[/quote]
DP.

Tlaib (who I actually don’t like) had the temerity to accurately call Israel “an apartheid government.” So she stated a fact and the PP says she can’t even write this down it’s so bad.

What with the Jewish world not being a monolith, other Jewish people have other feelings: ““Rep. Tlaib and Rep. Bush both issued statements that mourned the loss of Israeli and Palestinian civilian lives, and then said we need to address the root causes of violence to get to peace, and they are now being attacked,” said Beth Miller, the political director of Jewish Voice for Peace Action, a progressive Jewish group.“

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4250384-aoc-rashida-tlaib-bernie-sanders-israel-hamas-palestine/

So that’s pretty much what has made the Jewish “moderate Democrat” stomp away to the GOP. [/quote]

14:40 here

I am Jewish.

I agree with her that the current Israeli government and policy is very similar to the worst of the South African Government of the last 20th century.

I think Netanyahu and Likud have been one of the worst things that could have happened to Israel.[/quote]

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