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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“None of that matters for 90% of people. The topic of this thread is flagships that educate far more”

It is relevant because the premise was MIT, Harvard, & Chicago will give you the best bachelor’s in economics. Once that bubble was burst with the examples of Williams & Amherst, the fallacy that you need world-class authorities to learn at the undergrad level was exposed. Once it’s exposed for Williams & Amherst, it would seem odd to assume you can’t also get a great undergrad education at reputable big public universities (which, like Amherst & Williams, might not have world-famous faculty). Now someone will surely say that at Amherst & Williams you can talk to your profs over coffee, have dinner at their house, blah blah blah.  Fine, but for half the price at a big public you can still talk to them and get your questions answered. Bottom line: many of the assumed academic advantages of going to Ivies+ might apply to grad students but not be manifested in undergrad classes.

It’s as simple as saying you don’t need the guidance of the Swiss Olympic ski team coach if you are just learning to get down the hill without hitting a tree. [/quote]

So, going to OOS flagships (and other OOS schools) makes a lot of sense since it’s still cheaper than most or all high quality private schools, which answers the OP question.

A remaining question then is if the “assumed academic advantages of going to Ivies+ [that] might apply to grad students but not be manifested in undergrad classes” are more available to those with Ivies+ undergrad degrees. Ie if you’re really good at a very good public school, can you get a first class graduate education. Certainly, some public schools are top notch also beyond undergrad and I would guess and hope that top private schools would admit really good undergrads from public schools (who employ many Ivy+ educated professors) but maybe that’s incredibly difficult.

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