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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Justice Fepartment https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download

If at 2:23 am a resident calls 911 about an unknown male in a residence why call it a wellness check? Police got there at 2:31 and the front door was opened to 2 police officers. Officers see both holding one hammer and don't immediately enter and get the potential weapon...

Homeowner called for an emergency intruder and the protocol is first a chat?  What did police think it was at that time?  A carpenter?

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Just to be clear about this for you. Pelosi was woken up while in his bed. The intruder asked where Nancy was. Pelosi said she was not home and wouldn't be home for several days. The intruder said he would wait. Pelosi went to the bathroom where his phone was charging. He dialed 911, but I don't believe spoke directly to the operator. Instead, the operator could hear the discussion between the two men and pieced together that something untoward was going on. The operator then alerted police who conducted a high priority wellness check.

The sources for this are the SFPD press conference which you can watch on Youtube and the DOJ press release and statement which are linked earlier in this thread. During the press conference, the police chief praised Heather Grives, the 911 operator for using her intuition in guessing that this was an emergency.
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Yes I understand the chain of events.  Dispatcher Grimes escalated the call to what might be a priority A in SF from a B or C.  Unless they got there faster on a B [priority wellness check] given the call and owners of residence.  What I don't get is the request to drop the hammer given the reason the police were at the house.  Immediate hammer removal then questions would have meant no skull fracture. [/quote]

Spoken like someone who has never been in a tense, scary, uncertain situation.

It's really easy to come up with the best path forward when you're sitting there comfortable in front of your computer thinking about solutions. Tell us, are you a fireman? A first responder? An EMT? Are you regularly put in situations where you have to make fast, potentially life-saving decisions?

How do people not understand that in real time chaos, unclarity, and the need to act fast will lead to outcomes that might have been different if you were able to have time to ponder the best way forward while looking at the situation from the outside?[/quote]

I've been in tense and scary situations but on DOJ "When the door was
opened, Pelosi and DEPAPE were both holding a hammer with one hand and DEPAPE had his 
other hand holding onto Pelosi’s forearm. Pelosi greeted the officers. The officers asked them
what was going on. DEPAPE responded that everything was good. Officers then asked Pelosi
and DEPAPE to drop the hammer."

1 officer is named and some news articles use plural-officers.  2?  So I'd prefer the 1st thing to be drop the hammer and get in position while saying it.  A hammer at 2:30 am in the hands of 2 is not something to ponder.   [/quote]

Oh please name some tense and scary situations where the various accounts from multiple witnesses had no discrepancies whatsoever. I would be more suspicious of a situation where everyone involved gave the exact same account of what happened, no details conflicting whatsoever, and the journalists who reported it did not vary in how they reported it, either. That to me would signal that people were coached into giving a certain account.

And what you'd have preferred to do, from the safety of your desk looking back and having time to consider how such a situation should unfold, is completely irrelevant to what happened in the heat of a split-second moment, unless you are part of a team looking to improve your reactions.

Events never unfold just the way they "should have." That's just the nature of life. All humans make good and bad decisions, especially when it's a split-second decisions. It's weird that you can't accept that.[/quote]

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