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6.  You are now contradicting yourself.  You have been holding out God as a source of perfect justice.  How many times have you used that term?  Well, if perfect justice is in the afterlife, then people would have [b]no need[/b] to seek it in this world.  And yet we do.  All the time.  Therefore believers by their actions demonstrate that justice is imperfect even under God.[/quote]

No contradiction.

Any justice we pursue in this life must be imperfect.  Eternal justice is justice perfected.  "When that which is perfect is come, that which is in part will be done away."

We seek justice here because we are to seek good, and avoid evil:  the essence of natural law.  To seek justice on Earth is to participate in the eternal law as finite beings whose material bodies exist in time and space.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil [on Earth] is for good men to do nothing."[/quote]

Well then atheistic and theistic justice in this world are looking pretty indistinguishable.  We have the same playbook etched in natural law, the knowledge of an ultimate authority does not provide justice on earth, we still have to seek justice here because justice in the afterlife does not satisfy us, and justice is imperfect in this world.

So justice in the afterlife is just more a description of heaven in your mind, like a muslim revolutionary who believes seventy-odd virgins are waiting for him.[/quote]

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